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The Council of Nicea - The Council that created Jesus Christ

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Historical evidence that proves “Jesus Christ” never existed and was created by Constantine (Romans)


The Council of Nicea - The Council that created Jesus Christ


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25 April 2013


The origin of the “Savior” – Later becoming the person worshiped today as Jesus Christ

Ptolemy 1 Meryamun Setepenre (c.a. 367-283 B.C.E- Before Common Era) (aka Soter) (“Soter” means savior) became the first European pharaoh of Egypt through military force led by Alexander the Greek (a.k.a Alexander the Great). When Ptolemy became pharaoh of Egypt, he wanted the Egyptians to consecrate him as a god. He wanted to be called a god because that was the title all of the pharaohs of Egypt were called prior to him. However, the people of Egypt refused to call him a god because they knew the only reason he became a pharaoh was through force, so in “305 BC -Ptolemy took the title of Pharaoh, taking the Egyptian name Meryamun Setepenre, which means “Beloved of Amun (Amun means God) Chosen of Ra (Ra means God)”, and because of the Egyptians refusal to acknowledge him as a God, he began killing the people of Egypt, which caused the Egyptian priests at Memphis to give into his request by agreeing to consecrate him to priesthood, in order to save their own lives.

The key words in the above passage to keep in mind during your reading: Meryamun, Setepenre, Soter, which are words that were used to create the fictitious character of JESUS CHRIST in A.D. by Roman Emperor Constantine (Meryamun, Setepenre, Soter were used in B.C.). The images of Ptolemy below, which are similar to the images that are depicted as “Jesus” today, were forced upon the Africans and were ordered to be worshiped by the people of Rome. Let us continue to A.D.




Serapis Christus Greco Roman c.a 135 B.C.E. The marble image in the London museum is the image they use of Christ (Jesus) today. Christus was also the nickname for Serapis.


What is Serapis? (Origin of JESUS CHRIST)

Ptolemy’s rule was to create a deity that would be worshiped by both the Egyptians and the Greeks. He created “Serapis “, the made up Graeco-Egyptian god that was invented in the 3rd century B.C., portrayed as Greek in appearance, but with Egyptian accessories, representing both wealth and resurrection.

“Egypt, which you commended to me my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent and continually wafted about by every breath of fame. The worshipers of Serapis here are called Christians and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find) call themselves Bishops of Christ.”

- Hadrian to Servianus 134 A.D.


Constantine and Arius

Constantine the Greek (a.k.a Constantine the Great) Roman Emperor from 306 to 337, is known for being the first Roman emperor to be converted to Christianity which strangely enough, Arius of Libya (256-356 A.D.) born of African descent centuries after Ptolemy 1, had a problem with the Roman empire teaching the Africans and the people of Rome to worship a statue and celebrating death. He was considered a heretic, a professed believer (of God), who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church (what the religious authorities usually controlled by government deem as the truth). Because he started attracting so many followers due to his teachings that were contrary to the Romans, Constantine called the council by summoning all the bishops to discredit Arius, The Council of Nicaea. During the time when this meeting was called upon, there was no mention of Jesus Christ at all; no man had ever existed by the name JESUS Christ, and an important fact is that this all took place Anno Domino (A.D.) (which Christians claim means after the death of Christ) in Latin means ‘in the year of the lord’. The name Jesus Christ didn’t exist before the meeting was called (read the statements made during that time frame). It was only after this that they presented to the people the name JESUS CHRIST.

What Lord are they referring to? Kings have always been referred to as Lords or Gods.

If Jesus Christ didn’t exist during the time this meeting took place nor ever heard of, whom are people worshiping today? Serapis Christus?


Nicean Creed – Jesus Christ is born

Nicean creed which became the statement of the Christian faith was written decreed and sanctified by 318 Roman Catholic bishops at the council in 325 A.D. (some believe this transformation took place “Council of Chalcedon” 451 A.D.).

“We believe in one God the Father all-powerful of all things both seen and unseen one Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God the only begotten from the father, that is from the substance of the father, god from god, light from light, true god from true god, begotten not made, consubstantial with the father, through whom all things came to be both those in heaven and those in earth for us humans and for out salvation he came down and became incarnate became human suffered and rose up on the third day went up into the heavens is coming to judge the living and the dead and in the holy spirit” 

- The origin of the Trinity

The authorities shut Arius down and threatened him with death to keep his mouth shut. They positioned the creed during the time when people started becoming aware of the lies and deception, and ordered all books to be burned; destroying all ancient writings, “no evidence no argument”, and the outcome was the transformation from Serapis Christus, which means Christ the Savior, to Jesus Christ by edict of Emperor Constantine in 325 A.D.

Authors comment

Christians, do your research. There may have been a man that walked the earth in the land known as Nazareth that attempted to guide the people back to righteousness, but, this man was not JESUS CHRIST. You see no mention of any man in Nazareth named JESUS mentioned during the meetings in Rome, or of a woman named Mary (the virgin) giving birth to a child named Jesus.

This would explain why there is so much emphasis put on JESUS CHRIST in the bible, which further explains why God all of a sudden had to have a “son” (sun of God was turned to the son of God by Europeans, which is why every picture of Jesus has the sun behind his head. (Sun Ra, Sun of Ra (God)). The man you acknowledge as Jesus Christ of Nazareth was born in 4 BC; all of the above took place before that date.

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  1. So what about the historical New Testament documents, letters/epistles, etc.? Are they all forgeries and/or fakes?

    Also, if you're saying that the person born in 4 BC whom Christians accept as Lord and Savior, and whom we believe died on a cross, shedding his blood for the sins of humanity is not JESUS CHRIST...then of course you are correct. He was Yeshua ha Moschiach (sp?), and/or Yeshua bar Yahweh. It was only the transliteration of his actual Hebrew name into Greek that gave us IESOUS and then later JESUS.

    Or is that completely NOT what you're getting at with this article?

    Why not just be straight up and truthful and tell us who the man born in 4 BC actually was/is? The time for mysteries is past. Let Truth expose all lies and corruption!

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    1. All iam going to ask to end all of this is explain immaculate conception from any of your fairy tale books and egyptian hieroglyphs will play it out in more detail on a wall than your holier than though books admit it now Christianity was created to control the masses face it man its all stolen knowledge from egyptians hence hermes=thoth isn't known because he's the god of knowledge thus you don't know him

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    2. All iam going to ask to end all of this is explain immaculate conception from any of your fairy tale books and egyptian hieroglyphs will play it out in more detail on a wall than your holier than though books admit it now Christianity was created to control the masses face it man its all stolen knowledge from egyptians hence hermes=thoth isn't known because he's the god of knowledge thus you don't know him

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    3. Toth was a great engineer and built the pyramids.

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    4. The immaculate conception is a Catholic teaching that is unbiblical, but anyway.. which hieroglyphs? Where?

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    5. I'm really saddened by this perverted view of the gospel. Let's get this straight the Roman Catholic Church is a blend of paganism, mythracism, and Christianity. Bible days are still here and the book of acts is still being written. I've seen miracles with my own eyes, and by gods grace I will see more before I go to glory. Unless you humble yourselves Like a little child you can never get this gospel and accept a savior. For God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble

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    6. Is anyone aware of the fact that Magyar runes translates 2-3× more ancient latin than Italian????? Ask hourself how is this possible? Ask Mario Alinei. MAGYAR runes is the ONLY language that can transcribe Egyptian Hieroglyphs, Mayan pictographs and is found in the Bosnian pyrimids dating to 50,000yrs ago???? This is fact. So dont worry about what romans, greeks and all other nations(celtic=Magyar Hun origins) who CLEARLY do not predate Ancient Hungarian, Persian or Seihk faiths that stem back to well before the so called "flood" havent the slightest clue as to what the truth is......but these 3 ancients do!!!!!! So stop your ignorant regurgitation of fiction and allegorical secularized mumbojumbo and research what ive just bestowed upon you my brothers and sisters. Good luck

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    7. When you talk hieroglyphs you speak with ignorance. You have 2 eyes if you can only see a image get left. Balance what you see for everything you see another is like it but exists not.

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    8. True YHWH I AM told him his eyes will see it but he would not enter. Yet by faith I believe he entered heaven. He may be taken up like Elijah and never tasted death

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    9. The problem is ppl have strayed from god name YHWH..You see the Torah and old test.predates all of this Constantine b.s Yeshua is referred to throughout the old books. White ppl whom believe they a Superior race put the face of Serto as Yeshua..That's idialotory I Am said make no image of what's above or below..Fact in days of old there is no such place as the Middle East. That's West Africa where man origins derive and Yeshua would have been black not a European Jew period fact..The true Jews of so called Middle East are Black blond hair blue eyed men which still to date are in Ethiopia Fact.. YHWH is real

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    10. The "problem" is "YHWH", Yahweh Sabaoth, was the Jewish god of war, not "GOD the Father",the Jews WEREN'T ANY MORE MONOTHEISTIC THAN ANY OTHER CULTURE THEN. They worshiped assorted gods from all over the place, Zues, Pales, Moloch, Melchizedek, Nimrod, Ashtar, Ra and a thousand others who's names have been lost to time. YHWH was followed ONLY for those with a thirst for revenge.

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    11. No died on a cross the way you were taught. And not any Jesus nor any Yeshua. Sananda Re is his name and he did not die on a cross. Lives

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    12. So what does a man do? History is Tainted, religious leaders lie, I've been raised to believe in a God that will punish me for not believing in Jesus Christ. Revelation and other prophecies tell me not to be deceived. It's enough not to care about anything anymore. Now I see why there's so many atheist. Nothing in the world is good everything is evil continuously. Nothing I can do to change it. Enough to make me say fuck it. Fuck it

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  2. So are you saying the Gospels, Apostles and eyewitnesses were all a lie? The records of Jesephus?

    Do I believe the organized church has twisted Jesus into someone he was not? Yes. Do I believe the organized church has borrowed from paganism in the formation of Christianity? Absolutely. Organized Christianity is hardly recognizable from what was intended. The Apostles themselves almost immediately abandoned the teachings of their leader and fell into pride and control. It's what religion always does. Control the sheep and eliminate the infidels. The Council of Nicea and other gatherings to canonize scripture were totally political, that is clear. I'm sure the Apostle Paul would wail in sackcloth and ashes if he saw how we have canonized and deified his letters of encouragement to the churches.

    I totally and wholeheartedly reject the vast majority of the teachings, traditions and iconography of the organized church.
    But to believe historical Jesus (or Yehoshua) is a figment of Constantine's imagination is hard for me to believe.

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    1. Jesephus texts are a fraud and been proven as such on many occasions, more research on your part is needed i think.

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    2. As an old white man, I'm not surprised you find it hard to believe, you are of the race of the very people that made it up, you can't handle the truth, you have a European mindset, it's as simple as evidence vs lies, continue to believe the lies and die without the truth, smh

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    3. The pyramids are fake . They were made by masons in the late 1700's -1800's.

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    4. Josephus was describing the cult of Christianity and it's followers and what they believed and in no way proved Jesus existed.

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    5. So, Christians were dying for a lie when they said they saw the risen Christ? Why would they do this?

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    6. mass psychosis which is a demonstrably existing psychological phenomenon. Getting up on your feet after dying on the cross is not. "The truth is that christ was resurrected, then he died" from the Gospel of Thomas.

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    7. For fear of death. Christianity has always been believe or or we'll kill you.

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    8. On the contrary.. Christianity was born out of witnesses of the risen Jesus being killed, not killing.

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    9. Christianity was born out of religions that came before it.

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    10. The writings of Josephus used to be part of the Bible canon. You can still read his work today, but not in there anymore. And if you WERE to ever read his writings, you would see just how insignificant that single paragraph about "Christians" is. Because the entire book is about how the Roman emperors, the Flavians/Caesars are actually the "messiahs". Which is completely true, they were deified by the Roman Senate. Josephus saved his own life by convincing Rome that the Jewish texts were predicting their arrival and conquest.

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    11. When we consider the FACT that the very name "Jesus" is but a variant of Joshuah, it is nigh impossible to believe that 1st century Jewish parents were not naming sons "Iesu". If we could travel in time to that era and make inquiries as to the whereabouts of one Iesu from Nazareth we are likely to receive in reply any number of possibilities.
      HOWEVER, the transformation of that Iesu of Nazareth into Iesu Christos was a purely communal affair. God had nothing whatsoever to do with it. Iesu Christos is an issue of the Oracle of Man, not the Oracle of God. It is very similar to what happened during the time of Samuel. God did not approach Samuel and instruct him to anoint Saul as a "human" king. It was the PEOPLE who approached Samuel insisting on one. And Samuel was not at all happy with their request. He shared his concern with Yahweh Who graciously relented in the matter and then told Samuel to proceed as the PEOPLE had requested. This applies to the whole Messiah (Christ) thing as well. It was the PEOPLE who were prancing about all over the place yearning for a "human" savior, a Messiah. God never promised such a thing.

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    12. Except He did.. starting from Genesis 3:15 and promising hundreds of others times about a Redeemer (such as Genesis 49:10, Jeremiah 23:5-6, Isaiah 9:6-7, 11:10, 2 Samuel 7:12-17, Micah 5:2, etc.).

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  3. Friends,
    In order for deception to work it has to be presented like its the real deal.
    A basic question before start my rant is how people can act like know something or anything, if basically they don't even speak Hebrew/Aramaic, don't understand culture or Ancient Greek. I don't, do you? It's unthinkable to me. People can't reinvent another language they don't speak to fit false notions, alright. The same people doing it thru the centuries are of the same ilk that has made the "christian" pagan "church" what it is today. Period and enough of that!.
    Basically, its not difficult to understand why "christians" are hardly tolerated by all other people in this world. Do you want to know why, I tell you why? We (and I mean We because I consider myself following Christianity) are ungrateful and hypocrites most of the time. We have excuses for everything We Don't do and everything We do, do what the Creator's Kinetic Force, said NOT to do it. Last but not least, We will be against anything that would challenge "our/their" pockets and illusionary power. "Hey you, confronting me or our way of believe and dealings means you are against God and you are going to hell". How do you like that? Huh?
    Thinking about religion, in a way didn’t the Romans hijack the name, then assimilate it in the Roman God hall of fame giving him a new Name like every other fake god before him?. Is this how Romans controlled the world? If you were given a Real name, why would you answer to a name that your mom didn’t give you or answer to a name that does not mean what your name does? Who was responsible for the outrage and this Farse? Who is the sucker?
    I place these as questions but maybe Is the one who COMMANDED the first 4 books to be forcibly placed in the bible for the romans as only during the time these books were written only the educated were reading them, and that was less then 1% of the whole population? Helloooo!
    I won't spend a dime I earned in any temple built by man, but also refuse to debate Religion to the point to spend surmountable amount of my time trying acting like a freaking expert on this subject folks. I want to put my energy on the people, changing their reality and they will change the system they live in. Isn't that christianity was all about or what have become, MANanity perhaps?

    Truth is so simple and Love is the answer. At the end, there is life after death and we will meet our destiny if we like it or not.

    As I just rant, now I'm back to my composure seat. Sorry if I made a mess of it.

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    1. IMHO,
      I think God has removed the vail of deception from man created and controlled religion. Whether good or bad, helpful or hurtful, their fruit bears witness, but they are from man, not God. I have mentioned this before, that I believe the Revelation’s main purpose is to expose this opposite anti-Christ false religion. The Dragon (as Pagan Rome), the first Beast (The Catholic Church) that got its power from the Dragon, the second beast (Protestantism)…read chapters 12 & 13. These institutions have sought to high jack God’s people. To teach them different laws and different Gods. The Revelations reveals the mystery of this confusing (Babel) organization, and calls it the Mystery Babylon. God calls for his people to leave, and come out from it. Peace

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    2. I worked with handwriting analysis for over fifty years in hiring for industry, using it as just one of many tools in deciding to hire people for jobs according to their skill sets. It helped to get the round pegs into the round holes, etc. For example, people who actually need a job with a lot of variety will not stay in a job that is all routine. Not paying attention to those individual differences can lead to unnecessary turnover.

      Anyway, one thing I ran into periodically was the handwriting of people in the religion business including rabbis, seminary graduates, people who took courses in their particular religious discipline and got a preacher’s license, that sort of life track. I always expected that these people would show the greatest indications of honesty. After all, they were supposed to be messengers of God.

      What I found was a repeating pattern. Almost all of them had clear indications of what we call “double deceit”. In other words they were deceiving other people as well as deceiving themselves. To me, that was surprising and curious.

      Until the information started being written in public forums about the problem of how the Jesus story was developed at Nicea it didn’t make sense. Many of the traditions like the Madonna and Child theme appeared in many cultures far predating year “0”.

      So I discussed with my own pastor the problem of Moses and the Red Sea actually being the Sea of Reeds that flooded from the Mediterranean during storm fronts, the protein that is deposited on plants in that area today by insects that was called manna in the Old Testament. We talked about Jesus preaching to the 5,000 and the loaves and fishes story. Even if that story was adapted from some other source, the fact is that people in those days did not have McDonald’s. Every traveler had to carry food with them when they traveled or they were not going to eat. If the story were true, the miracle would have been the sharing by everybody of their food they brought with them, not the implication that the food multiplied on its own. I asked if it wouldn’t be better to tell what happened according to the Interpreter’s Bible, books seminarians often use as a source of information and a set of 12 books that can be found in most minister’s personal libraries.

      His response was interesting. He said he tells those stories in church the way most people want to hear them. To deviate from the traditionally accepted versions would be a problem for him. He could be seen as a “non-believer”.

      For me, that approached the crux of the matter. Belief versus factual information. In my experience, belief causes people to respond emotionally, for or against. And that position can change over time, for or against.

      Cognitive dissonance is a stress related condition or discomfort experienced by people who are being confronted with information that conflicts with their current beliefs and values. People are likely to avoid situations which create discomfort with their belief systems, including the above article. The congregation could start thinning out as they discover the preacher is not following the “company line.” It is information the congregation does not want to hear because it is dissonant with what they preciously have been told actually happened.

      So this brings us back to the double deceit, the equivalent of the cunnundrum that faces politicians: is it better to be honest or be re-elected? Is it better for a minister who has drilled down on history to continue the expectations of a congregation and keep his job, or present the truth and be cast out as horse fodder? And besides, it is how he has chosen to earn a living and where he has invested his education funds. Ironically, as long as he continues preaching the expectations of the congregation they think he is telling the truth. Even if he knows better. And that is the deceit.

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    3. Thanks Jack and Observer24,
      A lot of Sanity in your comments. Really, Christians should do their research.

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    4. To claim Josephus as evidence just doesn't cut it. Jesus was mentioned in one small passage. That passage was from 'Antiquities of the Jews' and is called the 'Testimonium Flavianum' which is widely considered a forgery. No other historian or scholar of that time ever mentioned Jesus.

      The Jesus Forgery: Josephus Untangled


      Gospels? The bible uses 4. Why four? The earliest reasoning was this:

      "The heretics boast that they have many more gospels than there really are. But really they don't have any gospels that aren't full of blasphemy. There actually are only four authentic gospels. And this is obviously true because there are four corners of the universe and there are four principal winds, and therefore there can be only four gospels that are authentic. These, besides, are written by Jesus' true followers."

      There is a never ending list of gospels. Who even wrote the 4 used cannot be determined, they are attributed to to the disciples of Jesus, but who wrote them no one knows. And that is direct from the New Testament scholars.

      'Gospel' means 'good news'. I don't understand why this term is used because considering the war and violence how can it be looked at as good.

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    5. BRAZIL_OF_BRICS, Christianity is about saving souls, not changing the system.. CANAUZZIE, the good news is salvation from the wrath on our sin, it has nothing to do with any war event caused by that sin. A lot of misunderstanding in these comments, but I do want to set the record straight about some lies in the article.

      The Council of Nicea did not create Jesus. It saddens me how much the false Roman Catholic Church has negatively impacted peoples’ perception of Christianity, but I digress.

      I’ve read the claim that the Council of Nicea invented Christ’s deity.. but now we’re at inventing Jesus? Without nit-picking every little false statement in the above article, I must question how they believe the name Jesus was never mentioned before AD 325 when we read of Jesus in the New Testament writings? Jesus is only an English transliteration of course, but the person of Jesus was mentioned in the manuscripts before then. He was also mentioned (by name or title) by Ignatius, Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Celsus, Josephus, and even in the Jewish Talmud.. all before this Council. Julius Africanus even quoted Thallus in 221 AD about the darkness that happened at Jesus’ death. Mary is also mentioned in these early church writings. To say that the name of Jesus was unheard of before then is just ridiculous to any serious historian. The nickname of Serapis has been the invention here.

      I would suggest the author's own advice for him to do his research and you as well. Besides, I wouldn’t believe everything I read from a site that links white people with dog ownership because they have tails, too..

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    6. The wars, the abuse, the control, the lies, are all from man. The darkness of Rome could not stop the spread of Christianity. The more they persecuted, the more people converted. When darkness concluded that it could not destroy the movement, it changed tactics and set itself up as a religious empire that claimed its authority was from God and then claim that the leader, the Pope or Pontifex Maximus (Most High Priest, same title as the head of a Roman pagan leader) was head of the church. The Apostle Paul revealed the Man of Lawlessness that was to lead this apostate church.
      "He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he
      sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."

      If you read the Gospels, whether or not you believe, or think it is fiction, there is nothing Jesus says that would not be considered good for men to follow. Jesus lived an acetic life. Helped the poor, sick, and widows. When others judged, he said those without sin cast the stone. People wanted to make him a king, but he refused. He criticized the religious leaders for their hypocrisy, which was a death sentence. Jesus was a reformer, and a peaceful revolutionary against the system. He was mocked, beaten, and hung on a tree (the punishment prescribed to severe criminals...remember him being crucified with other criminals). If Jesus returned today, he would chastise most all of the religious leaders and organizations like he did before. He would also chastise most of us Christians. Don't project Christians bad behavior onto the Christ. Read the Gospels. Everything Jesus did was God's will, not mans. Peace

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    7. DIDACTIC,
      Thanks to reply and welcome to OWoN.
      To come here in defense of christianity as your first post is a little confusing or a perfect example when religiosity and its power is challenged. I understand were you come from Believe Me, but your compass about christianity is completely out of sync in light of real purpose of Ethereal Soul and meaning of Eternal Life.

      First you can't save any soul by your own ability and language skill. There is nothing you can give or sell that can save a soul, because the same soul you are trying "to save" or you think you are Commanded to Save, has its origin in the Creator's Love for mankind, and for His own holds the key and power to save or condemn before the foundation.

      In light of that, you are only grasping a concept of christianity so far, because the one you are referring to and believing, definitely Is Not about saving souls, but is about what have you done unto others during your earthly journey.

      My statement is so True that your own bible, in the Gospel of Matthew 25:31-40, confirms this message when "judgement" takes place and "separation" is fulfilled. Go read your bible, take some notes and start to think for yourself. I bet you don't even know how to dictate the Ten Commandments in an orderly faction, as most "christians" can't do. Just thank the Heavens you are not asked, in that day, how many souls have you saved during your journey, otherwise you would be screwed?

      If I could, I would Boot Camp you holding the Word in my hand and spank you in a love and care way, the religious ignorance out of you. Lol

      I wish you the best and may you have chance and power to touch lives, regardless christianity.

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    8. BRAZIL, it shouldn't be confusing as New Age sites such as this have perverted Jesus and His message. Who revealed the real purpose of ethereal soul and meaning of eternal life to you? I didn't say I can save a soul by my own ability or skill. What's more, it is not I who can save, but the Holy Spirit. I stand on God's sufficient revelation to mankind and am not the one grasping at extra-biblical concepts. God cursed man after the fall and said he would die spiritually and physically. Jesus came to save our souls from the curse. To believe Jesus came for another reason shows a misunderstanding of the gospel. God's Truth does not contradict. It clearly states salvation comes from faith through grace and not by works, so that no one can boast. Even in the passage you reference, you fail to see. Jesus tells the righteous that the Kingdom was prepared for them from the foundation of the world, not because of their works. These works aren't the requirement of salvation, but the result of salvation. These works in love towards others come out of the love the righteous have from God to honor Him.. which the "goats" do not have. Instead of making assumptions, I suggest you read and think for yourself as well.

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    9. DIDATIC,

      I will not debate christianity, neither religion. But I will make a very short response as my final.

      Its not the new age movement that perverted Jesus and christianity, it is actually human corruption inside the christian movement that perpetrates abominations everyday. Yes, pastors, ministries, bishops and warm seat believers living a low life in ethics perpetrating scandals after scandal as their testimony, twisting Almighty Words and sound doctrine at free will, corroding all common sense.

      Our lack of compassion for others and focus in the gospel of prosperity in times of need, the obsession for temples, christian idolatry, worship of pastoral hierarchies and the believe that gathering of masses makes us Exceptional's among creeds, ruined the real gospel and the meaning of eternal life. We killed God's dream and crucified Jesus with our own hands because "We Are The Only Chosen Ones".

      Again, this is not the new age movement doing it, its our own people calling themselves "christians" screwing up. Stop blaming others for our own fault and take responsibility for our lack of understanding of after life matters.

      If salvation comes from faith and grace only, your services, neither religious christianity are required, meaning your previous statement that christianity is about saving souls is incorrect. Christianity sells, but salvation you can't buy, You Earned it.

      These are not my assumptions, I think and reflect daily because I lived it in its entirety. I take a Stand and refuse to fall by religion. Again, I wish you the best and may you have chance and power to touch lives, regardless christianity.

      We are Not Rivals, your compass only need a fine tuning.

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    10. And I will respond with this as my final.

      I stand by the Word of God alone as the Truth in my life, not anyone or anything else. This means what Jesus and the Word reveals of the life after is what I believe.

      Yes, salvation comes from faith by grace alone, but one saved will naturally show fruit in the world based on the love given them by God. However, these works aren't a requirement for salvation - they're a result of it. Christianity is about saving souls - preaching the gospel of the kingdom to all parts of the world before the end comes, as Scripture says. This isn't selling anything.. this is the Great Commission. We did nothing to "earn" salvation, for if we did, it would cease to be a gracious gift. Jesus earned it for us.

      Christianity came to do away with religion of man by God coming into His creation for a personal relationship, as was in the beginning and will be consummated in the end.

      Thank you and I wish you godspeed as well.

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    11. pefect thank you for that I was wanting to see that jesus came to rid thr religion.

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    12. Why are you guys looking for GOD when all you have to do is realize GOD?

      You must stop looking outside yourselves and start within.
      GOD is Energy to put it plainly....negatives and positives people. Isaiah 45:7.
      #wakeup

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    13. https://tomverenna.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/a-new-theory-that-jesus-was-king-of-edessa-not-so-fast-mr-ellis/

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  4. Meh he never existed. Those stories in the bible were copied from the Gilgamesh epics and the enuma elish

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  5. Canauzzie - lots of good in the gospels and it has been twisted to bad ends. The same info can be used for bondage or liberation. Basically the teaching of jesus, whether he existed or not, for me is identical to what is found in the recent exclusive - lifting the veil #4. Whether jesus existed or not there clearly exists an archetypal energy called jesus in the collective psyche of mankind. And I have found accessing that energy and other energies to be helpful on my path.

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  6. Jesus was created for the White people, the Europeans not for all other people. The Europeans have tried for thousands of years to force this false image to us to worship. We Africans don't want to do that, we will keep our spirituality. What we know is that even the Bible they stole, plagiarized is just a compilation of myths from Egypt.

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    1. Happily that's false and I am glad that long ago a Black man out in the Gaza strip reading an expensive scroll of the Prophet Isaiah asked a stranger to explain what he was reading and was converted to Christianity on the plan of salvation being revealed. Simeon Bachos the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 converted Ethiopia before there was even a Roman Catholic Church and its adherents still exist in that country today. That's good enough for this Black man. Keep your Egyptian myth errors.

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  7. Umm I'd like to leave a comment simplest way to know all d bible says is to go look up the etymology for the words since it written in or translated to English n before that Greek n before that Latin etc go way back to Aramaic its all there the beat mystery Babylon the messiah kings of kings chosen land and people which I thought was Israel but i it ain't and is ra el means Baal sun god that's etymologically try it yall

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  8. Not all Africans or blacks are good

    Nyahbenghi say death to all oppressors white n black

    See also moses or tot mos raised in kemet he was thought all d magic n sorcery hence y he parted see in d tale told but fell short for making sceptre and brass serpent and such he never saw Zion ask any Christian if moses made to heaven

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    1. And where's your sources for these claims?Moses was barred from entering the Promised Land on earth. Don't confuse that with Heaven.

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  9. here is my problem with the bible first its contradicting second how can somebody write about what somebody said 500 years before they were born they wasn't even there! lol, and what make one religion better than the next? what makes being a christian so special that when ever someone conquers a people (yes i'm talking mainly about the christians check your history,) or land they convert the people over to being a christian? just saying? some people are so into their religion especially christians that they can't see anything but whats been presented to them as the truth!if you asked 10 different people about a story in the bible or a verse in the bible i bet you that you will have 10 different answers, nobody is on the same page. whats up with that there's only one answer people be killing me with that, that is why i don't get into arguements or discussions about the bible cause everybody knows what they are talking about! yeah right whatever

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    1. 1) What contradicts? 2) Of course you won't believe God's inspiration if you don't believe in God 3) All religions are man-made and are man's attempts at working for salvation, whereas Jesus came as God incarnate to end all religion and offer what man can't attain 4) I believe you just got into a discussion about the bible..

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  10. its all made up bs! do your own research and stop being a follower!

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    1. So, because I disagree with you, it means I haven't done my own research? I've done plenty research, don't you worry about that. Let's discuss this research instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks.

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  11. here is my problem with the bible first its contradicting second how can somebody write about what somebody said 500 years before they were born they wasn't even there! lol, and what make one religion better than the next? what makes being a christian so special that when ever someone conquers a people (yes i'm talking mainly about the christians check your history,) or land they convert the people over to being a christian? just saying? some people are so into their religion especially christians that they can't see anything but whats been presented to them as the truth!if you asked 10 different people about a story in the bible or a verse in the bible i bet you that you will have 10 different answers, nobody is on the same page. whats up with that there's only one answer people be killing me with that, that is why i don't get into arguements or discussions about the bible cause everybody knows what they are talking about! yeah right whatever

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  12. Everyone,

    Sorry for the delay over the holidays posting your comments. Comments are moderated in any post older than 4 days. The reason for this is spam. Spam always tries to post on older articles, especially popular ones. Freedom of speech is practiced here as long as done in a respectful manner and comments are live, not moderated, in any post not older than 4 days.

    Thank you for your patience.

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  13. Religion means pathway to truth.

    https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/10/09/religion-means-pathway-to-truth-some-pathways-are-a-long-winding-road/

    Who Wrote The Bible

    https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/who-wrote-the-bible/


    Raising Kundalini

    https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/raising-kundalini/

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    1. Seeking information from a known hoax published in 1928 and believing refuted facts about the Council of Nicaea does not help your case. In truth, we can only all live in one reality, not on different contradicting "pathways". Either God has come to the world in flesh to atone for your sins or you are stuck with works-based religions all failing in their pursuits for perfection.

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    2. Your are a devoted Christian so tell us, where did Christianity begin? What continent. If you do not get the answer correct you need to study and stop having blind faith.

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    3. Is this supposed to be a trick question? Christianity spread from Asia by the witnesses of His post-Resurrection appearances. How's the continent relevant? I have blind faith? Seems you will just blindly accept anything that denies the truth of Jesus as your Savior.

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    4. "Christianity Before Christ" by J.G. Jackson...

      DIDACTIC, you should seriously ask for this book for Christmas. It's beyond brilliant and will give you much incite on this conversation.

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    5. OCTOHEART, the Christ Myth Theory is simply an unscholarly poor internet phenomenon that has been debunked since that book came out. You should seriously check out "Unmasking the Pagan Christ" by Stanley Porter.

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  14. If even one lie is in the Bible, all the rest must be suspect. A casual perusal of the dead body count from 'Christianity' {specifically the Vatican} indicates they are about power, not good. It is a control system, nothing more. No verifiable evidence exists for ANY god, period. Sure, many people claim various things happened, yet it is not repeatable with witnesses. The scientific testing of the much ballyhooed 'Shroud of Turin' was a proven fake. The predicted 'second coming' has yet to happen, despite thousands of predictions. If all the pieces of the "True Cross" were assembled in one place, you could build a 10,000 sq. foot Swiss Chalet. It is noteworthy that some of the smartest men are atheists, whose intellectual capacity should give rise to more god evidence, not less. From the mouth of the holy See himself :

    What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" Pope Leo X.
    "How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors." ~ Pope Leo X
    'It has served us well, this myth of Christ'~ Pope Leo X
    The christ label only means 'the anointed one,' a commonly practiced pagan ceremony. Perhaps all the lip service wasted on gods & myths could be spent feeding a hungry person or helping your neighbor. If an overarching power of some kind exists, surely something that smart wouldn't expect humans with short life spans to waste it glorifying something we couldn't possibly understand. blueray

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    1. Do you know WHY the Roman Catholic Church has a body count? Do you know that most of that count was due to misunderstanding, defensive, and against fellow believers? Even so, why are you stuck in the past? Clearly, we have learned from mistakes. Anyway, how does the fact that we are sinful detract from the fact that Christ came to die in our place because of our sin? How do the actions of broken people disprove that God came to earth to save us from our brokenness? Of course no "verifiable evidence" exists for the supernatural - then it wouldn't be the supernatural! I pray you seek Him to reveal Himself to you in a personal way, still. The testing done on the Shroud of Turin was on a piece that was tampered with - it still doesn't explain how that image got on there! I hope you do your own research and not take anyone's word for it, not even mine. Continue your own journey and seek both sides of everything. Atheists may be "smart" or wise or what-have-you, but He will make the wise fools when they stand in front of Him in the last day.

      By the way, those quotes have no citations, because their original sources don't exist. If you think Christianity is merely about glorifying God (whom we obviously can never fully comprehend with our finite minds) and not helping the unfortunate in the world, you have missed the point.

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    2. 1.~ Your proof for the misunderstood/body count is ?
      2.~ Stuck in the past ? 'Learned from our mistakes?' Your proof is ? Aren't humans still killing? Who has 'learned' this lesson?
      3.~ Your proof that 'Christ came to die' is? Evidence besides fairy tales, please. More than 25 different 'saviors' claim a similar story.
      4.~ I can't 'disprove' something that is an argument from ignorance. It is the claimant’s burden to PROVE something happened - this is a classic theist crutch to do anything but produce proof of their claim.
      5.~ It is irrelevant that you claim 'supernatural,' whether it is or isn't, you simply assert ANOTHER claim with no evidence & dodge the question.
      6.~ Your evidence that the piece was 'tampered' with is ? Another assertion with no evidence. The shroud was tested 4 times. The testing stopped when SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE didn't confirm the shroud fairy tale date the Vatican pushes on the 'faithful.' It has been RUMORED that it was a ceremonial linen cloth used to comfort the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar, Jacque de Molay after he was tortured. The Carbon 14 testing confirmed the date - 4 times – exactly when EVIDENCE says he was being tortured.
      7.~ I have missed what point? Whether a 'god' exists or not, my morals & behavior remain the same. Look around. Murder, torture, diseases, cancer, etc., exist. That means 'he' created them, right? What demented creature would do this? Surely, nobody or nothing I would choose to recognize, never mind worship.
      Theists are generally lacking in self esteem, have self worth issues or are simply cowards, unable to face life without fairy tale phantoms to help bolster their lack of comprehension & courage. MY life is way to short to spend on bended knee for a ghost. If that is the price, the hell with it. I'll take my chances. blueray

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    3. 1 - An example of what I mean by misunderstanding is the Roman Catholic Church killing Protestants.
      2 - You weren't talking about humans, you were talking about the 'Christianity'. So, yes, we learned from our mistakes. Unless you know of the Vatican still murdering people, but the Catholics are not persecuting those who disagree with them.
      3 - Research the Resurrection, its infallible proofs, and all the objections against it. All have been refuted. There are actually no original sources for those 25+ 'saviors' you claim have a similar story.
      4 - Just like it is the claimant's burden to prove the big bang created the universe out of nothing and that life came from non-life and evolution turned fish into humans - all of which are taken by faith.
      5 - You still miss the point with your scientism.
      6 - Giulio Fanti analyzed the material from the extracted fibers from 1988 and reported the original radiocarbon dating was done on fibers used to repair damage from a medieval fire. The revised dates, based on tests confirming the presence of pollen and dust consistent with a Middle Eastern origin, are between 300 B.C. and 400 A.D.
      7 - What is the source of your morals? What reason do you have to behave the way you do? Evil is a perversion of what is good, not an entity in itself. If you were consistent with your worldview, there would be no evil or good (just "blind pitiless indifference") and there would be no problem.

      Good attempt at trying to disprove God with ad hominem attacks, but they do nothing for your case to present your version of reality. Yet I'm the one making assertions?

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    4. 1.~ Neither you nor I can prove/disprove 'killing protestants.' Why not take on the Vatican pedophilia? It's here, now, present, provable. A good cause, no? But that means you have to actually DO SOMETHING.
      2.~ Christians aren't humans? How could you know 'what I meant.' ESP?
      3.~ Show me "proof" of your god. YOU CAN'T. Conjecture, 2,000 year old books, assumptions, faith, that's ALL you can produce. SEE: DM Murdoch-aka Acharya S.; The Christ Conspiracy, the Greatest Story Ever Sold. She's a double Phd. in ancient Greek history. She includes a list of the various gods who have nearly identical origins - PAGANISM. Do YOUR research.
      4.~ I never mentioned the 'Big Bang,' nor said I thought it true. ANOTHER classic theist game you play, diversion, obfuscation.
      5.~ Despite any contrary evidence, you will defend the Shroud beyond all reason, classic head-up-your-bum theism. Your world view is predicated on 2000 year old phantoms, documents, fairy tales, NONE OF WHICH YOU CAN PROVE. Enjoy your Alice-in-Wonderland alternate reality.
      6.~ Morals? Mine come from common sense, reason & intellect, the golden rule. Another theist assumption that atheists are 'defective & incapable of good behavior' unless we endorse the magic man in the sky concept. Again, I am NOT DISPROVING a god, it's your job to prove one. YOU make the claim. I don't really care if there is one or not. It's irrational, blinded, nonsensical theists like you who convince me ever more that I'm SO GLAD I escaped the Roman Catholic Church. The more you espouse that which you can't prove, the happier I am that eliminated your phantom from my reality. I'm not attempting to disprove a god. You are attempting to convince me you have "proven" one.
      Quit wasting your time with your lame attempt to convert me. Get off your righteous bum & go save some poor kid from a pedophile priest. THEN I will be impressed. Go get 'em, tiger. blueray

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    5. 1 - Wow.. this is accepted history and you choose to deny it? Check out Foxe's Book of Martyrs. Of course, you focus on human acts done that don't reflect who God is and ignore all the good that has come from the Church in many spheres of life, from the costly love that made it grow from the start.
      2 - Umm.. please read your original comment again.
      3 - Proof is for maths and logic. However, there are plenty of signposts in life that point to God as the best explanation. Yes, God requires faith - which is trust - because true love can't be forced. Still, He's given us enough to point to Him so that we are without excuse. Anyway, tell me, how does a book contemporary to its events make it false? DM Murdock has received negative comments from scholars. Listen, only the Internet has propagated this false Christ Myth Theory; vitually all scholars agree Jesus existed. Try looking up Dr. Mark Foreman and his refutation of Zeitgeist. He also has a Ph.D., but this is about FACTS. Your motive for refusing to accept this seems to be ideological, rather than historical.
      4 - Diversion and obfuscation? Sort of like atheists changing the definition of atheism to a "lack of belief", because they can't admit they themselves are making a positive claim they identify with.
      5 - Despite any contrary evidence, you will ignore the Shroud because your mind is already made up, so I'll let you be. However, you still haven't explained how the image was created on the shroud with its three-dimensional information.
      6 - Common sense, reason, and intellect? Which part of the random, accidental process of evolution created this common sense, reason, and intellect? I never said atheists are "defective and incapable of good behaviour", so you can throw that straw man out. I am saying atheists have no objective source for making moral claims - not even saying pedophilia is bad. That comes from a conscience that science can't explain.

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    6. Wow you said "Accepted history" Accepted by whom? White men? You are a funny dude.

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    7. If you deny the Roman Catholic Church persecuted Christians who were breaking away from their system, I encourage you to do the studying.

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  15. If even one lie is in the Bible, all the rest must be suspect. A casual perusal of the dead body count from 'Christianity' {specifically the Vatican} indicates they are about power, not good. It is a control system, nothing more. No verifiable evidence exists for ANY god, period. Sure, many people claim various things happened, yet it is not repeatable with witnesses. The scientific testing of the much ballyhooed 'Shroud of Turin' was a proven fake. The predicted 'second coming' has yet to happen, despite thousands of predictions. If all the pieces of the "True Cross" were assembled in one place, you could build a 10,000 sq. foot Swiss Chalet. It is noteworthy that some of the smartest men are atheists, whose intellectual capacity should give rise to more god evidence, not less. From the mouth of the holy See himself :

    What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" Pope Leo X.
    "How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors." ~ Pope Leo X
    'It has served us well, this myth of Christ'~ Pope Leo X
    The christ label only means 'the anointed one,' a commonly practiced pagan ceremony. Perhaps all the lip service wasted on gods & myths could be spent feeding a hungry person or helping your neighbor. If an overarching power of some kind exists, surely something that smart wouldn't expect humans with short life spans to waste it glorifying something we couldn't possibly understand. blueray

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    1. An Evaluation of the Work and Influence of D. M. Murdock: http://www.stephenjbedard.com/an-evaluation-of-the-work-and-influence-of-d-m-murdock/

      Also see http://jesusmythicism.info/

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  16. religion is govern ment is... mind control. 99% of man will be shocked beyond his senses when the Truth is revealed to him after this world. After reading all the ancient material i can find, i cant help thinking that the bible was written very cleverly, to diminish man, to degrade man into a status lower than the men of Khem when it was at its peak of enlightenment. The words in the bible are clever, Can be used as a weapon to suppress, and as the key to everlasting life when you read between the lines. IMO, the 'God' in the old testament is not the 'Father' in the New... Bible theme, overall, reminds me very very much of the Lost Book of Enki.... Enlil is Old Testament god, Enki is New Testament Father, Ningishzidda is the son, Christ.... How bout the ancient egyptian myth of Isis, Osiris, Horus and its likeness the Jesus myth....

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  17. the flood contradicts for one out of thousands of them . y give free will if your going to murder all in a flood anyways

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    1. That's not a contradiction, that's a misunderstanding on your part. Without free will, there is no choice to love. God could've created perfect automatons that wouldn't disobey Him, but then the relationship wouldn't be genuine. Genesis says God was hurt that He created man who would choose wickedness, but we were still worth it because some would still choose Him through Christ.

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    2. You patience is strong with these biblical mysticism / copy cat , parallomania theorist , Christ mysticism theorist .

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  18. Well well well. I see just how happy everybody is and how the faith has kept up since I've been gone. It's been quite some time now. I got an email from John today and thought I'd check the site out again.

    I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT CHRIST JESUS is real and alive. Why do you ask? Because from my experience back in December of 2014 I was praying to God and asking Him if I believed right because I believe Jesus Is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, right. So all of a sudden I hear from inside of me the pit of my stomach God told me it's time for you to quit smoking cigarettes. I tried arguing with God saying don't you know I have 2 cigarettes left down stairs in the basement. And then I heard it clear as day again, 'it's time for you to quit smoking cigarettes.' I said Lord if it is your will let it be done in my life. Amen. Now I did not smoke those 2 cigarettes and I have not smoked a cigarette since! I did not have to wear patches. The desire completely left me all together!!! Giving you a little back round information I smoked cigarettes for 24 years of my life. And Jesus just took the desire to quit them from me, and I didn't even ask for that then. I did maybe years before then but the thing with God is it's always in His time and not ours.
    Though it sounds from this string of the conversation as some of us are called and chosen and the others are just prideful and arrogant. However that's just my lowly opinion don't take offense.
    May the peace and joy of Lord fill your hearts, souls and spirits continually. Have a wonderful day filled with many smiles and much laughter. ;-)

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    1. OR MAYBE YOU WERE MENTALY DECIDED TO ALREADY AND PRAYED AND PUT IT ON GOD

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  19. Egyptian tombs and burial were dated before Christ we can actually go to Egypt and find tombs with preserved bodies so that means that they were real so if all of this was created before the birth of Christ then why isn't there a grave sight from anybody in the bible why aren't we able to see Jesus's tomb did he take to heaven with him i'm just saying facts are facts where are the apostles graves why isn't there one single artifact of the existence of anybody in the bible there nothing concrete I was a practicing christian then i saw the writings on the wall of fact and fiction for instanced in the bible Jesus wiped his face on a cloth and i his face was imprinted on it isn't that something someone would hold onto and cherish why would an artifact with such power never be seen by anyone if Moses was presented with the instructions of life something so important then why would they not make a monument for him he was in Egypt as they say pharaohs were being buried but not Moses come on just think. There is a God other wise you wouldn't have all this creation around you but Jesus is not off God and not his son just show one substantial piece of evidence besides the bible just one grave sight just one go look at the image off Ptolemy 1 Meryamun Setepenre in London why does he look identical to our modern day Jesus paintings and statues if we have evidence of what he look like then where is the concrete evidence and why doesn't he look like the person depicted in the bible. Anybody? this is made up to control you who ever controls the false religion controls the world WAKE UP PEOPLE the writing are on the wall.

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    1. Actually, we believe we do know the location of Jesus' tomb. All the apostles, but one, were murdered. How do you know they even received proper burial? You're arguing from silence. Just because we haven't dug up everything, doesn't mean the artifacts weren't once there. Where is the cloth story in the Bible? It isn't. That's a Catholic tradition. We have a monument for Joseph in Egypt, I suggest you watch Patterns of Evidence: Exodus. Why would Egyptians honour Moses with a monument when he freed all the slaves? There is enough for you out there to be without excuse. The Bible is historical evidence itself and yet you deny it. What else would you deny? Ptolemy doesn't look identical to "our modern day Jesus" and even if he did, we don't know how Jesus looked anyway, so there's no actual comparison to make. I pray you stop making excuses and ask God to reveal Himself to you through His Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus rose from the dead and it's the only explanation for the birth of His Church and its spread through martyrdom.

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  20. Egyptian tombs and burial were dated before Christ we can actually go to egypt and find tombs with preserved bodies so that means that they were real so if all of this was created before the birth of christ then why isn't there a grave sight from anybody in the bible why aren't we able to see Jesus's tomb did he take to heaven with him i'm just saying facts are facts where are the apostles graves why isn't there one single artifact of the existence of anybody in the bible there nothing concrete I was a practicing christian then i saw the writings on the wall of fact and fiction for instanced in the bible jesus wiped his face on a cloth and i his face was imprinted on it isn't that something someone would hold onto and cherish why would an artifact with such power never be seen by anyone if moses was presented with the instructions of life something so important then why would they not make a monument for him he was in egypt as they say pharaohs were being buried but not moses come on just think. There is a God other wise you wouldn't have all this creation around you but jesus is not off God and not his son just show one substantial piece of evidence besides the bible just one grave sight just one go look at the image off Ptolemy 1 Meryamun Setepenre in london why does he look identical to our modern day jesus paintings and statues if we have evidence of what he look like then where is the concrete evidence and why doesn't he look like the person depicted in the bible. Anybody? this is made up to control you who ever controls the false religion controls the world WAKE UP PEOPLE the writing are on the wall.

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    1. I agree and thank you. Certain people always want to force there stories upon you and can never produce any facts. just because someone fabricated a story and placed it into a book with no evidence to date, does not make it a fact. Like you said we have Kemet, and other things that actually exist. The truth is finally coming to light and instead of people shaking off the lies they would rather attempt to downplay actual evidence of what really took place.

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  21. Religion is man made. Sin is man made... see a pattern? Religion condemns the soul and enslaves the mind. When one is so controlled that they have to control the religious message as i have read over and over again in this comments section... it just makes me sick. All roads lead to Rome. That has got to stop and so does people bowing down to "gods" that do not exist. there is spirituality do not mistake. Sin, god... do not. We are the creators of our reality. It's about time humanity grew up and face the facts. We are on our own to grow, nurture, and progress... religion is to suppress.

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    1. Welcome Dawn,

      Nicely put.... Agreed...

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    2. Yes, religion is man-made. A God who revealed Himself throughout history and through Jesus and rose Him from the dead, thus resulting in the spread of Christianity, is not. If sin is man-made, please tell me what you do about morality. Seek true freedom from enslavement to your sin that only Jesus can deliver you from. The road in my city doesn't lead to Rome.. your pluralistic thinking is contradictory as there can logically only be one reality.

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    3. Sin or suen was a Aincient god worshipped in the mesopotamia by the babylonians and the chaldeans Sin was also reffered to in aincient times originally with the idea of missing a mark or what we commonly refer to as failure which owes its meaning to a Babylonian general know for missing his mark.

      And today we find ourselves brainwashed into believing allegorical myths that ascribe to a story of wrath and vegence mixed with love and compassion.

      STOP LOOKING FOR GOD AND START REALIZING GOD.

      THE BIBLE HAS CLUES AND SIMPLE ENOUGH SUGGESTIONS BUT IS NOT A SPIRITUAL ADVISOR!

      LOOK WITHIN YOURSELF

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  22. Terrible article. You are confusing the apostasy with the Church; the impostors with the Saints. You have not humbled yourself and repented so in your arrogance, you have outright rejected all teaching from the Holy Spirit. Of course you don't know God or anything about Him.

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    1. Nor will I repent. There is a whole host of knowledge out there. Step outside that one book and awaken. Your choice of course. But I am not going to be stifled and controlled by a religion and church created by man to serve a few in condoned pedophilia luxurious sanctuary. What God would trust them with the keys to heaven?

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    2. Those who think the Bible is just a book have not yet repented and do not yet know Christ. Until they do, they will continue to place their hope in manmade concepts and mythology, as you have clearly demonstrated.

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    3. Firstly, we do respect everyone's freedom to choose. Our contention is that religion is just a control system. Teaching that you are going to burn in hell if you do not follow and provide for the church. This supposed painful, unending, sadistic punishment carried out by a God that apparently loves you. It goes back to the old saying, "He who holds the key to Heaven rules the world". Man's evolution has been stifled by religious persecution, even in the face of facts. Just ask Galileo or the thousands of free thinking women that were put to death, claimed by the church to be witches, simply because they wanted to be treated as equals. The wars throughout history with both sides thinking and claiming they were doing "God's work".

      Religion is a control system only and creates division among man. Man can never unite with a common goal or evolve until these old fables are left to the pages of history.

      Abraham, a man who hears voices in his head, is a schizophrenic. Add to that the man's historical paranoid delusional tendencies and his family cross sexual proliferation and ask, what sort of Man of God is this? Native Americans also considered Nutters as being touched by God. In the 21st Century, with attendant thinking capabilities, when will modern man see to try? Afterlife is a truly awesome place, so with the powers of an immortal Soul, when will man start using his Cosmic gift and start thinking with it? From the Council of Nicea onward, Christianity has been sold a Pup. As has Judaism and Islam. Cosmic enlightenment and ethereal power starts with thinking. Or childlike fables.

      Our thinking is clear. Follow a crock, or logic? How can any rational, balanced person who seeks to engender balanced facts, follow such ridiculous fables? Who ordained sexual organ mutilation of children, or forced marriage of 6 year olds, or 4 wives? Cults - Not Cultures! Cults.

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    4. You are free to reject God. God will not reveal Himself to those who do so, and you will not subsequently be able to blame anyone else for the result of not having taken the 30 seconds it takes to ask for forgiveness of sin. You remain filthy and guilty by your own choice. You are free to remain on this road, but if you do, you will not be given life.

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    5. You only say these things because your life experience has lead you to believe it. Had you been raised by Amazon head hunters, you would have an entirely different belief and value system. Your words and ideas are yours alone, and you would probably find it easier to refrain from pontificating if you would grant others their values and rights to believe as they wish. Sin? Religions of this world are knee deep in it.

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    6. Craigo,

      We have allowed your last comment because you are talking directly to us. call anyone else here 'filthy' and your comments will not be allowed.

      You can't debate without making this personal.

      I do believe in God, just not as you describe or believe that exists.

      Thank God fools like yourself are dwindling in number. If people like you stayed in control we would still believe the world is flat and the center of the universe. it is impossible for you to debate because your book is simply laughable when you expect others to believe in such outlandish stories. Stories that were plagiarized from so many religions before it.

      It is not surprising the world is the way it is right now. Too many still walking around with blinders on being so self righteous. Condemning everyone else because they don't share your view.

      Calling us filthy, how very Christian of you. Your God must be proud. I suppose 'slay all the infidels' would be of your choosing. Remember to give plenty to that collection plate, have to keep that pedophilia retreat going.

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    7. I don't care if I am censored, because in telling the Truth, God is glorified. You are blindfolded while walking toward the cliff, and while most are encouraging you to do so, a few are lovingly explaining what will occur, whether you believe it or not. We are also telling you that you can find out for yourself by taking off the blindfold, i.e. taking the time to simply repent. All humans are filthy sinners until they are forgiven. You can't think yourself out of your filthiness. Only God can make you clean.

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    8. Repent all you like, I will just use water and soap thanks.

      I do not wear blindfolds, it is your vision that is restricted. Failing to see outside the dogmas you carry.

      A new born is the cleanest, innocent and untainted soul as you can get. Yet you would still call an infant filthy. Filth does not come until later, after its parents fill its poor head with religious diatribe.

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    9. I have already repented. My blindfold has been removed and I am amazed at the difference. Your blindfold is still on and you cannot see. You can only guess. That path leads to destruction. Don't be afraid to repent and confess your sins. You will be clean and forgiven so you can receive life. If you knew what it was, there is a 0% chance that you would continue to reject it. God can clean you though Jesus Christ. He paid your penalty in full. Don't reject it.

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    10. He paid a penalty? How? That infers a sacrifice of some kind. He was killed by Roman soldiers and then, I am told, he was brought back to life, and went to heaven to live in paradise. That does not sound like a sacrifice to me. Does it to you? I would endure that kind of treatment to know I was going to come back to life and live forever in a place that has no bad things whatsoever. Where do I go to sign up? If that's a sacrifice, I am in.

      Glad you are vision is better. But, your jihad against those who do not believe what you do is very troubling.

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    11. Christ paid for the sins of all humans for all time. Certainly it was a sacrifice. All who accept it are forgiven in full. Those who reject it remain guilty. Paradise is not heaven. Paradise is the coming kingdom on earth. The earth was this way before the fall. You need to find out these things for yourself. You cannot believe me - you are not allowed to at this point. Only the Holy Spirit can teach them to you.

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    1. Do you read what you print?.... think about what you just said.... "God does not believe in non-believers".... so you should not even try to show God to a non-believer?.... this is the kind of thinking that finally got thru to me some time ago.... God is much bigger than the world your mind is living in....

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    2. Hey! You do not know me and are far from qualified to judge anyone. You totally miss missed the point. Lastly, keep you personal attacks to yourself. This forum is not a place for that type of discourse. maz

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  24. Demons....Out! Your're all saved.

    Where is my beer? That was hard work!

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  25. "sun of God was turned to the son of God by Europeans, which is why every picture of Jesus has the sun behind his head."

    You realize, of course, that this pun only makes sense in english. Are you suggesting that the council of nicea was an english-speaking body?

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  26. Why does the "Sun of God" need to come down and die for our sins when the bible says that we are all gods? "Know ye that ye are gods?" Look it up. Rubbish!

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  27. This is a prophesy by Asaph of the Jews who ended up murdering Jesus. These Jews behaves as they were gods, similar to Satan being the god of this earth in this age (2 Cor 4:4). Do you really think you are without sin? Or that you can enter the coming kingdom without being cleaned? Not possible. Repent!

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  28. Proposal and Request for unity of all Abraham religions. Allah Arabic, God English, Yahweh Hebrew, is the same entity who chose prophets for the guidance of mankind. Allah is one, unique, only one, having no parents, no life partner wife, and no children. Allah is live, eternal, incompatible, unaccountable, upstanding have no sleep and no slumber. Allah is creator of all and Lord of all having no vanish, no deadline, no weakness.
    Prophets changed nothing but conveyed the same commandments to the people which Allah ordered to them. Religion of Allah always is the same. People changed commandments of Allah then Allah revealed again to new prophet. Allah completed commandments on last Prophet Muhammad and preserved last book Quran; now commandments of Allah are preserved, completed and unchangeable. Every Prophet preached to the people that be worshiper and servant to only one God, and do not follow false gods and devil. Followers of Psalms, Torah, Gospel, and Quran are all followers of Abraham Religion and Abraham was neither Jew nor Christian.
    Children of Israel fought with their own brothers and expelled them from homes so they could captive then they released them for earning reward from Allah, the same Children of Israel fought with Prophets but Muslims by mistake understood killing of Prophet instead of fighting with Prophets. According to Torah and Quran, Prophet cannot be killed because Allah protects them. Jews did not kill any Prophet then why after listening legend story Crucifixion of Jesus they did not deny it but verify it and said what a tremendous death Jesus got and what a tremendous Crucifixion Jesus got. The only reason is that Jews did neither accept nor want to accept Jesus as Prophet. Although Jesus was a true Prophet of Allah who verified Torah and with the permission of Allah He made a bird with clay and flew that winged bird and showed to people that same Allah will rebreathe all dead people on the day of End of World but Jews said that a magic.

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  29. According to Christian belief, Jesus death was tremendous sacrifice and it was very essential and God sent his own son for giving sacrifice for forgiving sins of mankind. It is suicide if someone kills himself or presents himself for killing and suicide is prohibited in all religions; how it can be permitted in Christianity. The story of crucifixion of Jesus is legend because Prophet of Allah cannot be killed; resurrection of any person before end of world is not possible; and Allah did not declare Jesus but Muhammad as witness on hereinafter for all mankind on the basis of preserved Quran.
    In the first century; followers of Jesus were very less; on the basis of small group Jesus was not an alarm so his killing or crucifixion was not necessary for Roman King or Jews. After Jesus in the second century; few officials who were believers of one God stood before King and expressed their faith, it means they were follower of true religion of Jesus. They arrested but escaped from prison and hide themselves in a cave and slept there. Army of King reached at cave but could not enter in the cave; whoever tried to enter in the cave run out due to terror inside. People understood that God of followers of Jesus is more powerful than Roman gods. Due to the incident of seven sleepers of the Cave, true religion of Jesus was spreading very rapidly.
    In the fourth century, due to its fear Roman King Constantine took a political precaution move for continuing his established kingdom declared Christianity as official religion after some needful changing and then converted to Christianity. In fact, the incident crucifixion of Jesus did not happen but that story was created and matters on which King and Bishop were agreed was declared as official religion. It means Bishops accepted to change the religion in the greed of positions in the kingdom, so Allah said people of book sold religion at very low price. In the fifth century, seven sleepers of cave awakened then after their death people made shrine a place of worship, it means at that time people were Christians but not followers of true religion of Jesus.
    If incident crucifixion of Jesus was really happened and symbol of Cross, statue of Christ, birthday of Christ 25 December, Messiah is son of God, Messiah sacrificed for forgiveness of sins of mankind, Resurrection of Messiah and Messiah is still alive etc. were written in the Bible by companion of Jesus then what is the reason for fighting between Roman Idolaters and followers of Jesus for 350 years if their beliefs were the same. Roman succeeded in changing of true religion of Jesus so Allah said Roman has succeeded in the land near them but when they will be defeated believers will be happy on that day. Followers of Abraham religion has been weakened each other by fight. Against false gods and devil, only one religion cannot be succeeded, so followers of Abraham Muslims, Christians, and Jews must struggle together, and their unity is very essential against false gods.

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  30. I love how this guy is like, "Christians do your research" but never cited any of the claims made here. This is nonsense.

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  31. SMH it is almost pointless to enter into a debate about something that none of us were present for,and we can find no evidence of. The things that we do find and see pretty much forces you to ask some very pointed questions about the bible that no one can show proof of and actually explain. who was there to hear what God said when he said let there be light? and if this all happened per the bible roughly 6000 years ago, how is it we find artifacts that go back millions of years before this event? take the stars in the sky for example some are millions of light years away? just simple questions no one can explain and make it reasonable fit the bible. Personally believe what you like I do not care but please do not attempt to force it upon me or tell me what my fate will be, when you do not have a heaven or hell to place me into. just saying, stop being so judgmental and telling people that they are wrong for not believing what you believe in. Sorry but I feel if as many people truly believed and followed the teachings of the bible for all these years we would be living in a much better world by now. sorry live in your truth and let your light shine and maybe people will be attracted to you and be more willing to listen to what you have to say, because they can see how you move different among others. when we leave this life we will all no for certain what lies beyond if anything at all and if it is nothing i guess we will never know anything because we would have truly reached the end. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/neil-degrasse-tyson-disproves-creationism-on-cosmos/

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    1. Now, that is hilarious! You just got done stating that nobody was there so we can't know when creation happened, then you turn around and state that you find artifacts that go back millions of years! You can't have it both ways.
      All of creation is 6,000 years old. Nobody has found anything older.

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    2. Craigo,

      There are plenty. Gobekli Tepe, Bosnian Pyramid, Yonaguni Monument and Bimini Road, just to name a few. There is even a structure at the bottom of the Sea of Galilee that is believed to be 9,500 years old. These are all facts and have been checked and rechecked (except SoG Monument). These are civilizations and we haven't even started with fossils and bones.

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    3. CANAUZZIE, There are zero existing artifacts that can be proven to be over 6,000 years old.

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    4. Craigo,

      So you are basically saying you don't believe in radiocarbon dating?

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    5. CANAUXXIE, It is impossible for anyone to prove the correct radiocarbon calibration curve since there are no absolute ancient benchmarks. In other words, nobody currently performing the radiometric testing was present in any case, requiring assumptions in parts of the formula. They are forced to assume that the ratio of carbon 14 to 12 in the atmosphere has always been the same as it is today. And even then, nothing can be dated beyond 50,000 years. It is theorized that the earth is older than 6,000 years, but it is certainly not factual. I would much rather believe the Biblical account, because God by His grace has chosen me out of the world to be one of His children. This caused me to repent, which is the key to entering the coming kingdom on earth when Christ returns.

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    6. Actually carbon dating has been tested against tree rings and was found to be on the conservative side. They do not expect it to be the same and allow for fluctuations which occur.

      The bible was created out of selected gospels. Selected meaning that others chose for you which gospels were relevant. Further, they were not written by anyone who actually was there during the supposed time of Jesus. They were written anonymously and were not attributed to the disciples until the second century, by the Church I may add.

      So the Church decided for you what they thought was relevant and then attributed them to the disciples all on their own with no evidence what so ever.

      That is plain evidence of a control system being manufactured for the benefit of the Church and not you.

      It is your choice Craigo and if that is what you choose I respect that. But children should not be forced into this ideology nor should it ever influence government or laws. It is a personal choice and should be done by a mature adult.

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    7. CANAUZZIE, Until you repent, you will continue to have faith only in the deadly beliefs of men. Once you repent, you will receive the Holy Spirit and you will begin to understand the things of God.

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    8. Craigo,

      With all due respect, I know where that road leads and I am not the slightest bit interested. Religion creates division, we need to be united. "He who holds the keys to heaven rules the world', a chain that must be broken to be truly free.

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    9. CANAUZZIE, Ignoring the good because of the bad is beyond unwise. Your lack of interest in the future in no way affects the way the kingdom will play out.

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  32. Till now dont understand why we dont read the truth...clearly

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  33. Nobody can disprove the existence of god. Nobody can prove the existence of God, therefore belief in god is irrelevant. Whether a creator existed or not is a possibility but religious dogma is utter nonsense, especially if your dogma means you have to ignore reason and empirical scientific evidence to believe it. Not to mention Christianity does make sense if you don't think about it. Christians are like "atheists are dumb, dinosaurs never existed, obviously the mist logical explanation is worshipping a virgin born demigod zombie".

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    1. The Old Testament contains many prophecies foretelling a Messiah and His Kingdom, which Jesus fulfilled and will complete at His second coming. Plus, He rose from the dead and thus proved His claims of divinity - it is the only reason Christianity spread, through the deaths of martyrs, and He is still saving lives. Jesus proved the existence of God, for He was God, but it's up to you to accept or reject that. If God exists, belief in Him is not irrelevant - it is the truth and the most important fact of life. Which Christians don't believe dinosaurs existed? There are many Christians working in the scientific field and what they study only strengthens their belief in a Creator.

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  34. I know this post is old but I thought I will share my experience and research. just a short note, I was born in a christian home and now am over 40 years old. To put everything in a nut shell, religion was created for political control, it has taken me over 4 years to forget about Christianity. Basically the bible is a compilation of stolen ancient books including Moses story borrowed from the book of the dead. Everything around us was is pointing back to zodiac, from disciples, the laws and canonized books are all there to make sure we follow. The church and the state is the same company. Study all religions you will be shocked that all the religions are the same, points to zodiac, just different story for different nationalities. Jesus Christ was added to accommodate more people. Keep in mind that Christianity was forced to humanity and those who rejected it were killed. 12 months, 12 disciples etc. do your research, i fought people back in the day and refused to took at the evidence but eventually I did. Read the samarian text maybe it might shed a light to the darkness we have been subjected to. The ancients believed that the giants were some kind of a god and they were advanced in technology. help yourself by educating yourself for the sake of your children. Having said the bible is bogus I still believe we were created by I don't know by who and how. Study the zodiac and samarian tablets has some of the text you find in the bible today. Ofcourse the roman catholic owns the bible that is why they destroyed all the evidence, also remember that Rome owns your government and the system we live in today. all we need is love and care for other humans

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    1. If I may ask a question.. if the Bible describes events that actually happened, don't you think similar things would be found outside the bible? Shouldn't similiarities between the two only confirm those things that happened rather than refute them?

      Secondly, the claim that all religions are the same is a grave mistake since they all contradict on their views of reality.

      I pray God draws you back for your sake as you continue researching from both sides.

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  35. THE MAN WHO WALKED IN JERUSALEM AND WHOSE BLOOD WAS SHED IN CALVARY WAS NEVER JESUS.HIS NAME IS YAHUSHA WHO CAME THROUGH THE LINEAGE OF KING DAVID THE HEBREW.READ YOUR BIBLES ACTS CHAPTER 26 vs12 TO 14 YOU WILL THEN GET THE ANSWER.ACTS 14 vs 8 to 12

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    1. NQOBILE Victor Bam,

      Your last comment was removed as it is an exact copy of the one above.

      I would also ask the you refrain from the use of 'all caps'. What you have to say is no more important than anyone else. We will be specifying this in our TOS.

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    2. NQOBILE.. the name Jesus is simply an English transliteration of the Hebrew, just as my name is the transliteration of the Hebrew Mikha'el. We're talking about the same person - no need to get legalistic.

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    3. Is it so hard to believe that both Serapis existed as an ideological figure to control and that Yeshua Hamashiach existed as the savior of the world? Translation can sometimes get lost in emotion over time. History cannot be ignored in either case here. The evidence that both existed is present and both hold truth. Was "early civilization" in general terms in the business of creating idols of worship; yes, was the creation of the god to entice the people to a certain state of being; yes. Is there a God; yes, did he come into the world through a women's womb to experience the plight of the man he created; yes, is his name really Jesus Christ, no; is his name Yeshua Hamashiach; yes. It seems that this blog has clearly laid out the facts for us to see them clearly (great studying all). Now what do we do with what we know; criticize each other, de-characterize each other, ostracize each other? Move forward in love with the knowledge gained here and with that any GOD would be pleased.

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    4. Garrett.. if God came into the world through Jesus in order to save the world through Him, then only THAT God will be pleased when you accept His offer of salvation. Jesus said no one can come to the Father except through Him. He then affirmed His claims to divinity by raising from the dead, thus giving birth to the gospel to the world. It is hard for man to make this choice, but it is either salvation from sin through Jesus or not. His words, not mine.

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  36. The statement was made to make the point that the references of God should move in love and nothing else.

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  37. Sarapis was actually a composite god, part Greek and part Egypt, and his cult not only spread across Egypt but the entire Mediterranean area. Soon, it would seem, every Greek city was building its own Sarapeion. The god even came to be worshipped in Rome, where he eventually became a major deity.

    Actually, the success of Sarapis with the Egyptians themselves was somewhat limited, even though Ptolemy sought to assimilate the god with ancient Egyptian mythology. he became the new husband of Isis, replacing Osiris, while their son Harpocrates, took the place of Horus. Furthermore, he became associated with the ancient cult of the Apis bull and Osir-Apis, the deceased Apis bull worshipped at Memphis. Of course, he also borrowed attributes from several Greek gods, such as Zeus and Hades.

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  38. The Jesus Myth theory (also known as the Christ myth theory, Jesus mythicism or simply mythicism) is the hypothesis that Jesus of Nazareth never existed; or if he did, that he had virtually nothing to do with the founding of Christianity and the accounts in the gospels. The Christ myth theory contradicts the mainstream view in historical Jesus research, which accepts that many of the events described in the gospels are not historical but which still assumes that the gospels are founded on a basic historical core.

    Philo of Alexandria (a Jewish theologian) wrote in the 20-40AD (supposedly during the time of Jesus) (Wrote the Confusion of Tongues and On Dreams, shortly before the writing of Paul) attested in his writings that There was a pre-Christian Jewish belief in a celestial being actually named Jesus (found in Zechariah 6), this being is a celestial being and not a historical person, who had the following attributes:
    a) The first born son of God - found in Romans 8:29
    b) The celestial image of God - found in 2Corinthians 4:4
    c) God's agent of creation - found in 1Corinthians 8:6
    d) God's celestial high priest - found in Hebrews 2:17, 4:14

    The early Christians (as in Philippians 2:5-11) believed this preexistent being descended, became incarnate and died, rose again, than appeared to selected people to tell them this story. The same story was taught of Osiris.

    ROMULUS - Roman state God, his death and resurrection celebrated in annual plays
    OSIRIS - Egyptian God, those baptised into his death and resurrection are saved in the afterlife
    ZALMOXIS - Thracian God (maybe related to Keltic gods), his death and resurrection assures followers of eternal life.

    Other Gods in Antiquity that the Jesus story mirrors:
    - Horus (3000 B.C.) Egyptian God born of the virgin Isis. Wow, 180 parallels with Jesus
    - Mithra (1200 B.C.) Persian God born of the virgin. Also referred to as the Truth and the Light.
    - Attis (1200 B.C.) Greek god born of the virgin Nanan
    - Krishna (900 B.C.) Indian God born of the virgin Devoki
    - Dionysus (500 B.C.) Greek god born of the virgin. Referred to as the King of Kings, God's only begotten son.

    All these Gods were born of virgins;
    Born on Dec 25;
    Had twelve disciples;
    Performed miracles including raising the dead;
    Persecuted;
    Died for three days;
    Resurrected.

    In fact, the life and times of Horus was inscribed on the walls of the Temple of Luxor in in Egypt in 3500B.C., are images of the annunciation, immaculate conception, virgin birth, ministry, death and resurrection. This is exactly the story of Jesus, I'm my opinion

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  39. There are some many inaccuracies in the first 2-3 paragraphs that I didn't even have to finish to know this is purely speculation on the author's part.

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  40. It's all lies from Europeans. It always has been and always will be. Whatever happened exactly doesn't matter. They always lie. That's enough to know Jesus is a fake and a fraud. Christianity is white supremacy plain and simple.

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    1. With all due respect, the Bible reveals a future earth where all nations will worship Jesus who saved them. Jesus is the fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham that all nations would be blessed through his seed. Jesus saves people from every walk of life. How is this white supremacy?

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  41. What a sad thing that you people can't even feel the truth within your hearts. The conditioning enforced on you all is very strong and has a strong hold on your mental. SAD !

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  42. You want to tear down Christianity, but do you have anything to offer that is better? Hahaha! Have you ever heard the phrase, ""when it comes to human beings, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior." We have been killing each other, abusing each other, and taking advantage of each other for centuries, and it will never change. Don't be a fool!

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    1. Obviously you have not read any other articles. We offer plenty.

      We have been killing each other mostly in the name of some god, abusing same and taking advantage same. We would have been far better off with no god and would have saved millions of lives.

      A fool... really? Have you actually read the bible? If so, then who is the fool?

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    2. Religion is not the problem.. the problem is our hearts.

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    3. Religion is the problem. Religion by its very nature creates division. It is a control system for the herd. Those with the 'privileged' to be in its higher ranks are not subject to its own laws... hello?

      Hearts are much better. Sure there are those that are without a conscious and/or empathy, but if you have ever witnessed a catastrophe first hand, the out pouring of humanity is very apparent.

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    4. So religion controls people by dividing them? Who is not subject to its own laws?

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    5. D.I.D.A.C.T.I.C.,

      Research the Cestui que trust and how humanity has been enslaved for centuries.

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    6. Care to explain what relevance that has to this discussion of control by religion?

      When Christianity arose, it shattered the world's control of power. Christianity introduced concepts that went against having control, such as loving enemies and universal human rights. Christian organizations, or those started by Christians, are always the first on the scene of global catastrophe. Power and control was not maintained by giving it away, as Christians did. Christianity eventually displaced the Roman Empire. So, once again, how does religion control people by creating division? If you wanted control, you'd create one global religion - and this is what is prophesied in Revelation.

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    7. I disagree. Christianity did not displace the Roman Empire, the Roman Empire used it to unite their territories under one religion to try to save it from failing.

      Christianity shattered the world's control power? Ever hear of the inquisition? Speaking against their dogma brought you death. Swapping one for another is not an improvement.

      The bible is fairy-tales explaining the movement of the stars. Hence why the same stories are told over and over again in many, many religions. Only the names change. Most predating Christianity. The stories were not to be taken literally. Christianity came along and not only forced them on the populous literally, but made the Sun of God a man and divine. Controlling your way to "heaven" by way of their dogma. He who controls the keys to heaven control the world.

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    8. The fact that other religions share the same stories should be a sign of truth. This is why many Natives around the world have stories of a great flood that is similar to the biblical account. Of course, details change because they were spread and passed down through different oral traditions, but the sources are the same historical events. No one made Jesus divine. He said it Himself. He also said He is the way, not any other. If the Bible's a control tool, why is it not propagated by mass media and why is it banned by oppressive governments? The one who controls the world is the one who controls the banks.

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    9. Truth yes, but not to be taken literally. They are stories explaining the movement of the stars, solar system, galaxy and such.

      Christ is fire, the Sun, you must elevate through the four elements to reach Ether (God) and fire is the last. So yes, you must elevate through fire (Christ) to get to God (Ether).

      There are few places the Bible is banned. An oppressive government of course would want to ban it, they want control of its people. You are just swapping one oppression for another.

      Banks?

      Read up on:

      1307 - UNUM SANCTUM

      CESTUI QUE VIE

      1455- ROMANUS PONTIFEX
      1481 - AETERNI REGIS
      1531 - CONVOCATION

      The Vatican owns our ass and assets.

      Read The History of Banking and you will see the Vatican and the Templers were to oversee the financial system. Vatican became the sole overseer in 1307 after charging the Templers with heresy. Arresting and murdering all they could find. So who is the top of the Pyramid of control? Ever hear the old saying "All roads lead to Rome"?

      Of all the Gospels found, why were only a handful accepted. The bible is only made up of a few and others were cast aside, why? All bibles are based the same way. So you are reading a book that has chapters missing because the Vatican chose which ones were relevant for you, or more like for them.

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    10. And that is one reason we saw the Protestant Reformation happen.. no one owns me but God. Neither did the Papacy choose the canon, it was already accepted on before Nicaea sought to confirm what was already accepted as canon. The rest are forgeries.

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    11. "Christianity introduced concepts that went against having control, such as loving enemies and universal human rights. Christian organizations, or those started by Christians, are always the first on the scene of global catastrophe. Power and control was not maintained by giving it away, as Christians did. Christianity eventually displaced the Roman Empire. So, once again, how does religion control people by creating division? If you wanted control, you'd create one global religion - and this is what is prophesied in Revelation."

      Indeed brother. Christianity turned the world upside down, and it conquered the Roman Empire through love, acts of compassion and mercy, and their lack of fear when facing death. For example, many citizens of the ancient pagan Roman Empire would abandon their children on the streets, the Christians would come along and take these children and would raise them as their own.
      Countless of our brethren died martyrs deaths at the hands of Roman emperors, gladiators and ferocious beasts. The Apostle Paul preached that intercession should be made for all men, even to submit unto those who were of the world's governments. Surely, they didn't desire any power to rule over others, and even though knowing that we would one day rule, their desire was to serve others. In my humble opinion, the problems began when Church and State were unified, Rome, being unable to slow the pace of Christianity's rapid growth, or to simply get rid of them, adopted it, as a means of control. The Roman Catholic "church" was born, gave their pagan deities "Christian" names and the so called "Holy" (which was far from holy) Roman Empire was established. As the saying goes..."If you can't beat em, join them", just as Satan transforms himself into am angel of light, and his ministers as ministers of righteousness, and in their heinous deeds, brought reproach to the name of Christ, surely, they shall receive their reward... Keep contending for the faith Didactic. Keep speaking the truth with boldness. For his glory! Amen. God bless.

      http://www.chriscastaldo.com/2011/05/09/how-christianity-conquered-rome/

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    12. https://cccdiscover.com/why-does-anyone-become-a-christian/

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  43. Russian people under the rule of Vladimir Putin and the Oligarchs. Every faith is tied to God and we are all sons and daughters of Abraham.

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    1. Every faith cannot be tied to the same God, for all faiths contradict. For example, God has revealed through Christian Scripture that we are made sons and daughters of Abraham through adoption by Christ.

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    2. Why is Vlad filmed kissing black madonna?

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    3. Why is he on video kissing the black madonna? Isn't she isis, ishtar, Semiramis etc? Pope Francis is also filmed praying to the black madonna!?

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    4. My reply was intended for Markie Z..... sorry!

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    5. Ishtar was and is a pagan statue. Semiramis, some believe was the wife of the Assyrian King Nimrod. Both have nothing to do with a portrait or statue of the Black Madonna holding Jesus or not holding Jesus. It is not unusual for Putin to be kissing a Black Madonna as they are mostly popular in Poland, France and in his case the Byzantine culture. Our Lady of Czestochowa is a Black Madonna. If you look at her face closely she has two scars on her right cheek. The old story goes that a pagan fighting in Poland struck her twice with his sword. Any analogy or assignment to evil, terror or hate is inaccurate. Pope Francis is a Pope of all people of all color. So is the Madonna. Peace.

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  44. Forty different authors writing in what we call the Bible over 1500 years all agree that Yeshua HaMashiach or Jesus the Christ is the Son of God. The virgin birth is written by the prophet Isaiah hundreds of years before Christ Jesus birth. Moses, raised in Egypt, recorded the Godhead, when he wrote, "Let us make man.." Daniel, again a writer hundreds of years before the birth of Christ, writes that all power was given to the Son of Man and His dominion would be everlasting. The Caesars, including Nero, and Josephus, Tacitus and Pliny the Younger all confirmed His existence and that He was worshiped as God. These were not Christians.

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  45. I dont believe anything in that article....full of lies.

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  46. Miracles.elements thats all u need to worship.brainwashed fools

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  47. To this very day, most people refuse to accept the spiritual practices of Africans as being truly Godlike. The European phenotype as it currently exists only appeared approximately 8,000-years-ago. This may have been due to interbreeding with Neanderthals. The Bosnian pyramids are roughly 30,000-year-old but they were not constructed by people with the modern European phenotype. The facts just mentioned have been proven with genetic testing and radioactive dating. The European phenotype is not the issue, it is a mindset that lacks understanding of God's purpose for creating the universe, which is to have positive, loving experiences through Its creations. Anything other than this is contrary to God. Humankind should reflect on its contrary actions to God, nature, and other human beings, perpetrated over the past 2,500 years. Tua Neter for the current bronze age, or age of Aquarius. Non-European people have been spiritually aware for an extended period. Currently, Europeans are becoming aware and possibly acknowledging their spiritual shortfalls, and negative spiritual behavior.

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  48. The Christ Conspiracy by Acharya S. Please, for the love of God, read it.

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    1. "For the love of God", I suggest you read a refutation to The Christ Conspiracy: https://www.risenjesus.com/a-refutation-of-acharya-ss-book-the-christ-conspiracy

      Unless, of course, you only read content that confirms your bias.

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