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  1. Submitted by a reader. Too much to verify, but interesting for sure. The "last" thing she would do is wear a mask?

    A virologist with a controversial view for sure.

    Dr. Judy Mikovits (American Researcher) on Coronavirus

    Plague of Corruption (Dr. Judy Mikovits)

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  2. @John, Please note the company in the second quote looking for long-term contracts...

    Source: Vox Day

    Make them do it


    As usual, the big US corporations have learned absolutely nothing from the disruption of the production and supply chains as a result of the coronavirus.
    BQ
    Large US companies operating in China don’t want to move production and supply chains from the country in the near future, even though the coronavirus may force them to adjust their business strategies, a recent survey found.

    Around 70 percent of 25 firms with global revenue of over half a billion dollars have no relocation plans, despite the effect the coronavirus outbreak has had on their business, according to a joint poll conducted by the American Chamber of Commerce in China and the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai. The results of the March survey, published on Friday, also show that around 40 percent of the respondents would rather keep their long-term supply chain strategy for China unchanged.

    While more than half of the firms polled say it’s too early to make any decisions on relocation, only four percent of the companies are planning to shift all production outside China, while 12 percent of the respondents intend to move part of their facilities.


    It's time for President Trump to start imposing massive penalties on US firms manufacturing anything outside the USA, and for Congress to do the same. And any firm that lobbies against the penalties or opposes them in any way should be deemed ineligible for any bailout money or federal funding for its employees.

    David Ricardo is dead. Free trade is the most expensive and destructive kind of trade. There is no comparative advantage. And this is why no nation that plans to survive can afford it.

    Prestige Ameritech. The North Richland Hills company is America’s No. 1 maker of hospital surgical masks.

    During this crisis, you’d think the company would be pushing forward on all cylinders, working 24/7 to manufacture the one commodity that Americans and the rest of the world want so badly.

    Nope.

    When there's an outbreak -- like last time, with Swine Flu -- he gets orders. He ramps up to fill them.

    Then the outbreak passes, and guess where the hospitals go? Back to China.

    This leaves him with capital equipment leases and people. If he doesn't lay them off he goes out of business. If he does lay them off he get's hammered with much higher unemployment insurance premiums, the leases on the equipment he has no use for, and he goes out of business.

    The last time he nearly did.

    This time, he's demanding long-term contracts. Good for him.

    Guess how many he's gotten?


    I'll bet you can figure that out.

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    Corporatism not only isn't capitalism, it is pure and unadulterated short-term-preferenced evil.

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    1. Tino,
      I didn't know anything about what you shared regarding Prestige Ameritech. They are located in Richland Hills, Texas which is a suburb "city" of Fort Worth, Tx.

      I've been there many times as my dad lived there for over 50 years. He taught me to drive a stick shift in the parking lot of the old Sears store that has since shut down along with a whole lot of other stuff. The town is dying on the vine, sadly. It is/was a community of mostly blue collar and self employed in the businesses we need such as a/c, plumbing, car repair, etc. Unfortunately, this micro city is a mere shadow of it's former self.

      Thank you for initiating a little trip down memory lane for me this morning.

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    2. Mom, Wife and Patriot,

      What a small world, I too spent my teenage years in Richland Hills and shared a lot of time with good friends at the Birdville Stadium complex which was across the road from the Sears shopping center you refereed too. You are correct, time has changed the community a lot, and that will be one of my projects if we are destine to participate in the changes that are forthcoming.

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  3. I understand everyone being concerned about CV....BUT
    There is a ton of events taking place while the attention is placed on CV
    LIKE, the domestic crude oil price is -$38. Brent is $26
    Are we witnessing the death of the petro dollar
    G-Man

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    1. Many nations are now removing the petro dollar from Trade Settlements. The US seems in terminal decline.

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  4. John is reval close now? What about cryptos when will they allow those to surge?

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    1. The team fly back tomorrow. That's all I can say.

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    2. Cryptos have lost so much money and scammed so many, most people will run a mile before touching them now . Blockchain is coming it's just how. Unfortunately cryptos have such a dreadful name now it's an issue of confidence.

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    3. Couldn't we substitute the phrase "stock market" for "crypto" and your statement would still be very true?

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  5. Tino
    Sorry it's been a heavy week end and lots happening.
    Elaborate please on the company in the second quote looking for long term contracts. Confusing.

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    1. Deepest apologies. Basically, that company is a solid producer that hasn't expanded against demand because no one will enter long-term contracts, the solid producer doesn't want to be whipsawed by expanding production if American businesses will turn-coat right back to China, as happened during the Swine flu, nearly bankrupting him. I figured since he has a long-term view and has long-standing production record, that he might be a possible addition to your stable of healthcare manufacturers.

      https://www.prestigeameritech.com/

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    2. Thank you, understood and empathised.
      I am working with our Intel side to lobby to get the hell out of Chinese dependencies. If lock down continues the economic consequences will fast retrack the entire face of commerce.
      The way this is going is to retrack all business to Internet, multi screens, no personal meetings, courier deliveries of papers, or electronic contracts, end of meet and greet.
      Already the lock down denies grandparents the right to travel to or receive their grandkids. I for one refuse, travel and will die caged if need be . No one gave Politicos the right to mass subjugate Elders. I am saddened at the mutant resignation of the Sheeple, they have played right into Cabal hands. Unreal now the mass injection is in danger of becoming acceptable policy . We are on such a dangerous path. In my lifetime I have never seen such threat to hope before or mass abject surrender to rights.

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  6. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/04/19/wells-fargo-lawsuit-small-business-ppp-loans/5162801002/

    The lawsuit filed on behalf of small business owners on Sunday alleges that Wells Fargo unfairly prioritized businesses seeking large loan amounts, while the government's small business agency has said that PPP loan applications would be processed on a first-come, first-served basis.

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    1. I filed into both PPP and EIDL. They ran out of money on PPP, and EIDL, there's not even a way to look up via confirmation number. It's a joke. The money was given to larger employers. Hell, Amazon walked away with what $34B?

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    2. Tino, good point.

      AND, Amazon pays NO TAXES and the "forced shut in" has increased their business!

      I think we should start a campaign called "GIVE IT BACK" directed at the Amazons and Boeing sized businesses that took money they haven't earned or DESERVE!! Is it possible to shame them?

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  7. I'm all in favour of protest. Parliament via the Commons is so badly mismanaging this. We lost 5 critical set up weeks because a bunch of dithering big girls blouses can't think outside the box. And how many thousands will die because these Mediocrities are simply incapable it conceiving battle plans? The Lord's are off for weeks so we have a simple vacuum.
    We have a PM jibbering like a child who needs to man up and out up. His Deputy, Raab, is like road kill in the headlights. Mediocrities.
    Phase 1 of a certain major restructuring just for Elders has been approved and is moving to contract once we clear lock down.
    We are making progress with PPE supplies and have our own companies in JV relationships negotiating long term supply contracts.
    We MUST step away from Chinese Dependency and with Elders support, expect ramrod pressures to build. The Elders stand with me. They despise the Commies. I dont want to publicise more.
    Assume we will reschedule supply sources.

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    1. Tino please allow word switching with mobiles. So annoying and my time is beyond pressure limited.

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  8. Because the test is garbage, the models based on Chinese lies, the R0 being wrong, we ended up in a Garbage In, Garbage Out scenario.

    British data shows the UK peaked before the lockdown. Therefore, the lockdown was mostly useless. Simple social distancing and masks were all that was needed.

    LIFT ALL LOCKDOWNS NOW!

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  9. Totally agree. The WHO has just started that only 2% if the population has had or developed ant bodies for Covid so it's out there but no mass deaths. The UK politics are talking if keeping Bars, Clubs and Pubs closed until December and 70,year olds locked down for a year or more. Inhumane. I flout it continuously. Spalling stupidity. Politicos?

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    1. The South Korean Elders advised me today there are rumours that Rocket Man in the North may have died from heart surgery.But, as with Russia, a stiff could lie there for a year until truth is allowed out.
      Is Rocket Man tripping with a Sputnick? We have to wait now while they execute 100 Heart Surgeons as a reprisal.

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    2. Strange. The antibody tests here suggest 5%. In any event, assuming its a valid test, it means the vast majority of infections are completely asymptomatic. If we open up,with masks, it will burn thru the population slowly, Farr's Law takes over and we are done with it. Given that, it is an argument to open up, not keep shut down.

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  10. Tino
    The sheer scale of sun standard PPEs and failing Test Kits from China is an issue I am addressing heavily. Plus the abysmal surge in faulty knock offs. I have adjusted my views of Commie China post Covid Xi is a ruthless hard-line despot we deal with at our own risk. Time to rethink Commie Czars or truly, we drop our Guard, we see our R's

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  11. Bad news in this morning. Recuperating at the Chequers country home, Boris Johnson, in line with Matt Hanckock, Health Secretary, are both now anti easing the lock down and discussing extending ii into 2021. Alarming, yet these bloody sheeple are lethargic here as long as someone is paying them to lounge in the sun with 6 pack supplies.

    Both are Dubious Buggers, and dodgy Matt - Hand on Cock is the last person we need at this level. Britain is the hand of Muppets!

    Police have given up on crime,and now turn up en masse at Train Stations, or prowl Motorway service stations like roach infestations, picking on travellers. The last thing we need are these Damn Bloody Woodentops out one such tasks. Who polices the Police or Po- Lice? Madnesss rules fools.

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  12. Covid.

    Half the PPE equipment out there is either not arriving where needed, or part faulty.

    Lockdowns now are pointless as a blanket policy, it needs direction.

    Simply ensuring that each nations citizens have adequate masks fit for purpose, not Chinese Knock offs, ample supplies of hand sanitisers, and social distancing with reason and sense, will allow society to function with dignity. Locking down Elders is a NO!!!!

    No one can be allowed to destroy the the bedrock of Society,the family unit.

    We NEED to Western produce quality PPEs and keep our nations safe. This will run for years. So, let's make it a key dependency. Establish long term, home based, PPE contracts.

    Then unlock our people.

    Pubs, Clubs,Cafes and Restaurants now may take major hits and a rethink. That IS a Quandary. They serve a Social purpose. But boozy, sleazy, sweaty Pubs and Clubs may take a major hit. Ours look likely to be closed until Xmas and by then most will have folded and closed anyway. How do we Socially distance and disinfect in Cafes and Restaurants?

    You expect Politicians to think? The last one I saw who tried was JFK. How did that end up?

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  13. There are new reports that Covid 19 mutates into 30 variations and that is bad news for Europe with its diverse illegals races.

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    1. True, but the mutations should be progressively milder... silver lining?

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  14. Following on from a previous comment from John about people's reactions. Went for long walk with number 3 son today through town. Geez, half way in I felt like we should be wearing sack cloth and ashes, ringing a bell and howling, 'Unclean, Unclean!' It was like the parting of the waters, people flowing to opposite sides of the pathway and diving into doorways. Even had a mother and two little kids huddling to one side, one of the kids trying to hide behind mom. I was getting the feeling I had the sort of problem even your best friend won't tell you about. Or maybe I'd grown two heads. This thing needs to end. And soon.

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    1. Yep. I violated social distancing at the grocery store (and I was complete with mask and glasses and my isopropyl alcohol spritzer) and was given the evil eye by a young woman with verbal reprimand. Did I mention that said young woman had no ppe whatsoever? Nor did 50% of everyone else. Thankfully the damn bug is not the killer it is said to be.

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  15. John

    Are you going to talk about the oil at all?

    What wi.happen next?

    Thanks

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  16. So, word on the street is that some hospital systems are putting *a few* of the patients with positive tests on ventilators by letting them partially crash or withholding/delaying some standard respiratory therapy steps.

    If so, this is obscene, since it is purely driven by money, the $39,000 Federal payment.

    Please note, I have not verified this, and it may be baseless rumor. I have feelers out, will let you know if it pans out.

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  17. Oil

    I. It's lying up in overfilled tanks, and miles of Ships in chains waiting not able to make ports. Unwanted!
    2. Fortunes have been gambled buying Spot,it's waiting to be sold but no Buyers.
    3.The Bushes, Cheney and all the thieving Cabal will lose their Butt ends.
    4.Derivatives Insurance calls will start soon. Watch that sink a few Insurers.
    5. Car sales are down c40% right now.
    5. Lockdowns are reshaping Society. Some poor Souls are dying within a day of symptoms even showing. Many can't even get through to report illness. We are now, only just starting to show Care Home deaths in volumes. Stats have been garbage. I trust none. Care Home Death reporting has been weeks behind, we now play catch up.
    6. Lock downs will go into next year for many. It's flawed, inhumane, and families will break apart. Elders will die alone. Why? I refuse to lock down.I travel.
    7. How can you open Hotels, travel by plane,trains or buses without compulsory masks at least.?
    8. Bars, pubs and Clubs are closed here until at least December now─ Most will fold.
    9. How can you socially distance in a Cafe or Restaurant? Time bombs if not masked, and sanitising Cups and glasses? So many issues yet to clear? If they do open and it's hit again, the lot stops hard. It needs a lot of thought yet. It's crippling owners.
    10.The thinking here right now, is to drive all sales to the Internet,video calls etc. No meet and greet or Hospitality. No more socialising.Not my policies or wishes!
    11. Pop Stars concerts, Shows etc all out. Spectator sports event are a No here, it will only be allowed behind closed Stadium doors TV only.
    12. Travelling has collapsed. Airlines are filing for Bankruptcy.
    13. Home values are in free fall. Sell what? Build what?

    14. Entire motorways are empty, and vast Service Stations empty crawling with Stasi F Police preying on motorists. Sat on their arses, easy meat. The sheep have walked to their pens, corralled, unreal????

    15. So now they will kill the Elders first. Over 70's wont get treated often. What is coming down? The brain dead are mass subjugated lying on their useless asses with 6 packs in the sun at home. Until that money stops.
    16. Petrol/Gas/Oil demand is tiny now. Unemployment will go into free fall soon.

    Oil? Really? Wait until this hits home with the Arabs. Or if a new outbreak hits America.
    They have seen how fast the Sheeple folded. Draconian next?
    Is NWO over, or just starting? It's ugly, whatever.

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    1. Oil continues to crash. June contracts down to $10 per barrel. It's over for the criminal oil Barron's who have control this world via the petro dollar It took too long to get here but finally we are seeing a bright light at the end of this long dark tunnel
      G-Man

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    2. It's the twin hit of demand shock coupled to transit lead times. Will it reverse when demand shock reverses into supply shock limits?

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    3. You can write off oil for this year lock downs alone will pole axe it. The Politicos have seen how easy it's become to Corral the Sheeple so they won't let go now. Pandora's Box is open.

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    4. They are misreading the situation. Most of us will do things because of fear and rational altruism. But they lied. And so now the ballgame is really quite different. Protests will mount.

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    5. I've seen US States starting to protest. Well done all of you.
      Our limp brains are cruising on time off in the sun. Too stupid to understand if it goes on much longer unemployment is a long queue.

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    6. On Americans:

      "deep independent streak that believes the government is a nice-to-have not a must-have"

      - What is wrong with that?

      "take rights to a complete extreme"

      - WTF does that even mean?

      I am hoping Americans can give the rest of the world some backbone....

      A couple of wankers:

      US on the brink of 'mass civil unrest'

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    7. "6. Lock downs will go into next year for many" - buying time to roll out a vaccine?

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  18. Covid 19 Vaccine

    The University of Oxford will start its vaccine test this Thursday. Here's hoping?

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  19. Use masks. They work.

    https://www.fast.ai/2020/04/13/masks-summary/

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  20. Smiling after being lambasted daring to doubt care home deaths weeks ago, against the sterling trustworthiness of accredited reliable mediums who was I to suggest the ratios made no sense

    Today the deaths were increased by c1,000 for the last week again false spikes, because as I suggested, Care Home Deaths had NOT been counted in due to slow reporting and are only just catching up so even the spike is false it's 4 weeks old info. If it smells wrong, it probably is. Experience teaches us factor it in, but trust our own judgment. Lies and Statistics?

    Even this month's stats are now wrong because they add unreported deaths

    Whatever is truth, reality is far less are dying than projected,and 1,000 times worse deaths are the businesses we are recklessly destroying. Idiots in Politics. They rule, God only knows why because far more able people don't enter today's slime pit which is sad.
    I don't fear Covid, but I fear far more not only the scale of wanton economic destruction these Mediocrities will wreak if not stopped, and I'm as sad for the lapsing standards of both values and the very Will of people to reject false judgment calls or to even have a clue what may miss shape lives they are about to to see run off the tracks if not redirected.

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    1. Well, this is what happens when everything is made a matter of law and the arrogation of using force in its name regardless of context. At what point do we say freedom of association, freedom from taxation of most goods, freedom of expression, freedom of travel, are outside the scope of the law at all times and everywhere except narrow national security enclaves. In other words, when do we all roll back to 1950? In NYC prior to the Sullivan Act?

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  21. Hang in there John, the wingnuts are coming out of the woodwork.

    Just yesterday someone posted at WHA:

    Rockville2says:

    OWON does not have as much information on the process of Currency Revaluation or PP release as he attempts to make us the readers believe he has.

    ----

    I remember a few weeks ago when OWoN went inexplicable dark for a few days. They were going apeshit over at WHA trying to find out what happened - like a bunch of strung out junkies 3 months behind on rent.

    Now, you don't know anything.

    Do you ever get the impulse to chuck it all? I would not blame you if you did.

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    1. Smiling. The knives out on OWON can be worse, and working long hours multi tasking a vast array of issues and Global needs, the answer is Yes, many times.
      Eg S certain reader Mak was hitting the wall trying to get Shockwave for his business. Impossible to find. An appeal to me on site. He was called by me the next day and a spare reserve obtained for him within 24 hours.
      Reader helped, big time.
      A second reader with corporate inquiries for a vast array of PPE items just locked down for all but the top. Again called the next day, they having failed for months, and full offer specs out within a week. Real action, not Numpty rhetoric.

      None frankly have a clue just how much is done or evolving. Your own T associate works with me daily but nothing disclosed in site. Zero. Very high level intricacies and progress.
      So why come to us? He has the world to assess. But from first hand hard experience trusts one.

      None understand the work we are doing with Covid Committees. Nor are we elaborating or exposing it. Ask T he will explain. We won't publicise.
      7 mins past 11 at night answering you. Work started answering Korea at 05-30 and rumours with Rocket Man seeking clarification is he alive or dead.
      Major contract progress now with Elders but private and Lock Down is easing.
      T and myself talk 3 to 4times a day on major issues.
      I'm working daily with your other US party and 3 linked banks. Face forward. That's 20% of issues. The rest are wide and diverse needing consummate depth of understanding. Plus helping the site where possible.
      We are building a new PPE operation with multi national supply lines and future strategies to protect our nation's.
      Real issues, real world and 90% of it thinking outside the box multi D Chess Boards.

      So much is active right now .
      Jeez 23-18 must push on
      Regards as ever. And thanks.

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  22. If it helps, there are reactions, and they are gaining in strength...

    To wit: BEST STORY OF THE DAY: NYC Mayor De Blasio’s coronavirus distancing tip line to rat out your neighbors flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes

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  23. Does this mean Bank of America believes we are heading into a depression?

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-reach-3-000-50-110324862.html

    (Bloomberg) -- Bank of America Corp. raised its 18-month gold-price target to $3,000 an ounce -- more than 50% above the existing price record -- in a report titled “The Fed can’t print gold.”

    Or, is this more indication that they are getting rid of the FED?

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    1. We ARE headed to a Depression. About the Fed I am clueless. That's John's territory.

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    2. The Petro Dollar is being Universally dumped. China is running over the US Politically and Economically. The US has lost the Plot and China is taking the pot. Recession, or concession, like handing over the keys to America?
      China has screwed the Pooch and we do what?

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  24. The antibody kits are meaningless. 13 false positives for each true positive. Throw out all antibody studies due to the fact that Chinese test kits are faulty.

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  25. https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/cdcs-failed-coronavirus-tests-were-tainted-with-coronavirus-feds-confirm/

    The CDC had been vague about what went wrong with the tests, initially only saying that “a problem in the manufacturing of one of the reagents” had led to the failure. Subsequent reporting suggested that the problem was with a negative control—that is, a part of the test meant to be free of any trace of the coronavirus as a critical reference for confirming that the test was working properly overall.

    Now, according to investigation results reported by The New York Times, federal officials confirm that sloppy laboratory practices at two of three CDC labs involved in the tests’ creation led to contamination of the tests and their uninterpretable results.

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    1. Errors of this magnitude are never by accident. There is evil intent.

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  26. https://mcclintock.house.gov/newsroom/columns/the-unseen-death-toll-of-covid-19-measures

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  27. Facebook blocking anti lockdown protests.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/35501-facebook-to-ban-anti-lockdown-organizers-calls-their-posts-misinformation

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    1. Fascist Zios again at work. The problem and danger of allowing Zio Rats to control free speech. Now, they even want to steal that!

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  28. Watch UN Police in Utah Stating Their Power Supersedes U.S. Constitution

    In August of this year, with $650,000 provided by the state legislature, the United Nations held a conference at the publicly owned Salt Palace in downtown Salt Lake City.
    Defending Utah covered many of the events as detailed at www.unitednationsutah.com

    During the conference, pushing the UN’s anti-family/anti property rights/ anti American Agenda 2030, journalists covering the event were confronted by UN officers. You can watch what happened here on video,

    https://iotwreport.com/watch-un-police-in-utah-stating-their-power-supersedes-u-s-constitution/

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  29. Protests continue
    All over US State Capitols many states

    This one in SC is being blocked on info on FB. https://m.facebook.com/events/676974246178815/permalink/677158942827012/?d=m

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  30. Governor had road blocks at rally in Raleigh, NC to keep them from reaching their Capitol.

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  31. Yesterday San Diego and San Clements held rallies. Yep, the people are rising up over losing constitutional rights.

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  32. john. Don't misjudge Americans. We were born with Revolution in our blood.

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    1. Never, as a Band of Men together, have we needed it more. Once we beheaded a bad king as we revolted for freedom.
      Now, our masses, I see around me, sadly are becoming- Revolting.
      When Sheeple lose direction, they lose their heads.
      There are good and bad in all Nations.
      Her indoors, I suspect, has grounded ours.
      Joking!

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  33. The fix is in.

    They are deliberately sinking the hydroxychloroquine drug. The fatal flaw in ALL of the hcq studies is correcting for zinc status and ascertaining zinc status. Given this uncontrolled variable, a necessary co-factor in the operation of the drug, the trials are garbage.

    By contrast, every series where zinc status was corrected is running with minimal intubation, minimal cytokine crisis, minimal deaths. At this point, I know a dozen experiences thru colleagues with folks heading straight into respiratory crisis who got zinc+hcq+z-pack and reversed course in 4 to 12 hr. This is not an accident.

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  34. John F
    Allowing testing and roll out time the earliest real world vaccines getting to the public will be late 2021 to Kate 2022 if approved. If not normal vaccines are an 8 to 10 years process.
    Either way we face controlled risks and lock down issues for 2 years if Muppets rule fools.
    Masks, hand washing, sensible social distancing and sanitised hand washing should remove 95% of risks. Attending mass sports events locked in together and roaring Buffoons is the height of stupidity at this point and need to be banned into next year because another out break will total economies. Sports need to be televised and strong leadership. Sod the Whiners, closed stadiums and mass protection..
    Pandemic risk is low as is, but allowing mass roaring spectators Puts the whole of society at massive risks.
    Intelligent judgments need balanced thinking. There's the problem, you can't trust politicians . I'm against extended downs but totally in favour of lock outs for public sports attendance. Televised this year and sod the whingers the entire Public have lives at risk for selfish Swine. Reason or write off the season.
    On all best plans Covid is with us for 2 years and all deaths are bad losses.
    Boom time for Undertakers .

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  35. Typos dam mobiles!
    Travelling and swerving lock downs

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  36. https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-economic-war-with-russia-and-china-the-economic-impacts-of-the-cov-19-lockdown/5710118

    Interesting take on things!

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  37. Question on BBC news website was, when will we have a drug to treat Covid 19?
    Answer There are still no drugs proven to help doctors treat the disease.
    Tino better get on the Batphone and put 'em straight!
    But of course the Beeb are only toeing the party line. They've done an excellent job keeping us all informed.

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    1. They are deliberately ignoring what works which says the highest levels of medicine are corrupted. Integrative docs on the ground are using 25 grams of vitamin C by IV to shut it down the moment people get sniffles. More serious who are heading for respiratory distress are getting the trifecta and most turn around in 12 hours. Early intervention is key, unsurprisingly. As recently as last week we were losing a friend to this bug and the network got him the trifecta and it was a miracle reversal. This morning the brother in law to a former patient called us in tears to let us know about the death by Covid. Just standard therapy because 'there is no evidence based medicine supporting the use' of any of 'alternative medicine approaches'.

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    2. Tino - Any chance we can get your knowledge of the hcq-az-zn combo to a wider audience? A letter signed by your dozen colleagues? Published in major newspapers, distributed by readers here, sent to PI's of the current hcq studies. Those studies are just ramping up, so could easily include another test condition. US media also jumping on the bandwagon that hcq doesn't work. A lot of work to fight a tsunami of mis-info, but saving lives and restoring the global economy is certainly worth fighting for.

      CNN article against HCQ

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    3. Pete,

      You are looking at system's problem that is much more complicated than Dr. Tino going on the news or a journal. There's this silly notion in the field that unless it is double-blind randomized placebo (during an emergency! sure!) it's all anecdotal. No, Raoult in France, 1000+ patient series means something. Namely, it works in practice. Those in my extended circles that adopted my recs by supplementing with selenium and zinc, the moment they were given hcq by friends when docs refused to prescribe bounced back in under 12 hours, some in under 4. Placebo effect my ass.

      Having said that, whole health systems have been briefed thru back doors by doctor talking to doctor. Hell, the grapevine has informed me it has bounced even thru Navy Intelligence thru a former Naval Intelligence guy who was a patient back in the day.

      Never forget Mercola and Oz went public.

      They now have their real, horrifically biased, VA study. It WILL get trumpeted far and wide. Trust that a lot of good docs will still quietly prescribe it because they will see what I see.

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  38. Concern is mounting in the UK as I pre warned Public Covid deaths were not reported correctly so deaths are not c17,000 as now expected, but could be 41.000 real world dead . UK Financial Times today.Lies and Statistics heh? No accounting for using our own heads.

    We are keeping the big 3 PPs off radar.
    Yesterday over 8,000 Chancers contracted the Uk Heath Care Unit to try to sell PPEs. Klondike insanity loose. Just like Currencies.

    For that reason, we keep yelping Dogs well away from real PP discussions. Any leaks and that convoluted crap would sink decades of work. Those who matter, know.
    8,000 Muppets timewasting the Uk Health services valuable time.
    So we don't show our PP progress. Boo Hoo.

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  39. I noticed multiple posts today regarding Americans banding and rallying against the current lock downs. As a senior citizen, I have witnessed MANY rallies by well meaning Americans against things that were not only wrong but abhorrent.

    Sadly, other than the French revolution which I obviously did not witness but only read in "His-Story" books, I don't personally know of a SINGLE time that any of these objections and rallies changed anything of any consequence.

    If there is someone on the blog that has observed or experienced our last 60 or so year history differently, please share and give me my hope back. Thank you.

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    1. Boston Tea Party. Beheading King Charles 1st. Roundheads v Cavaliers. Jarrow Marches. Emily Pankhurst who got you your votes.
      MLK who stopped disgusting Apartheid. Nelson Mandela.
      Want any more?

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    2. Vietnam Protests.. after Kent State Protests against bombings in Cambodia : The Kent State shootings (also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre),[3][4][5] were the shootings on May 4, 1970, of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard at Kent State University in Kent, Ohio, during a mass protest against the bombing in neutral Cambodia by United States military forces. Twenty-eight National Guard soldiers fired approximately 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.[6][7]

      Some of the students who were shot had been protesting against the Cambodian Campaign, which President Richard Nixon announced during a television address on April 30 of that year. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance. Sadly the "war" did not end until 1973... Nixon used in a speech on January 23, 1973 to describe the Paris Peace Accords to end the Vietnam War. The phrase is a variation on a campaign promise Nixon made in 1968: "I pledge to you that we shall have an honorable end to the war in Vietnam." The Accords specified that a ceasefire would take place four days later.

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    3. John, I said examples in my lifetime. Senior doesn't mean I was around at the time of "Boston Tea Party. Beheading King Charles 1st. Roundheads v Cavaliers. Jarrow Marches. Emily Pankhurst who got you your votes."

      Since History is totally unbelievable since it is always told from the perspective of the victor, I want to have evidence that I might remember. As for MLK, yes, eventually things changed a bit but it may have just been "time" for the change. I remember very little if anything changing while MLK was alive.

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  40. New deadlier mutations. Let me say it now. Utter bull. The universal trend of strains is towards milder infection. It is the difference between the remotely possible and the highly probable. This is Chinese propaganda. Were it to pan out deadlier you are guaranteed it is a deliberate bioweapon release.

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    1. "30" different strains? And they got all that from 11 people? Has a clinical study woth its salt ever been done on such a low sample size?

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    2. Of course not. This is based in part on the previous, German study, I think that detected some 50 strains downstream, 4 superfamilies, of which the U.S. has all four. And it might all be garbage, because we are looking at detecting RNA/DNA by PcR expansion based on gene sequencing of some snot that hasn't even been proven to be disease inducing. Given how many exosomes stressed cells throw out, we might just be detecting plain vanilla coronavirus or some other garbage that binds. It really isn't the exact science all the talking heads make it out to be.

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  41. WTF? Olympic Opening Ceremony 2012 NHS

    all planned for chip implant and the beast too rise out of the ocean...

    Their symbolism is their downfall. Fauci hand in coat 33 signaling to the "club"

    33 cases, 33 states , 33 cruise ship attendants.

    You cant make this stuff up. So stupid how they think their numbers have meaning or do something .A JOKE

    and their witch Abrmomovich that was paraded out on Easter Sunday for a ritual Ishtar , Spring solstice the goddess.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5krD8zJ6-bY



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  42. Today from Paladin
    From WH PALADIN
    We urge everyone to stay active and vocal and continue to PUSH BACK in social media and everywhere else to make sure you stay vigilant. Our group wanted me to post this video for everyone's review. It gives a good overview of what's going on and puts things in perspective.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XVlwKHQlZQ

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  43. From Paladin
    No "surveillance" ....................No tracking..........we will not allow them to take away our rights while we fight this WAR.

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    1. I agree 1000% with the statement "No tracking..........we will not allow them to take away our rights while we fight this WAR.

      However, in truth, until we STOP carrying around a tracking device that we paid hundreds of dollars for called a cell phone, I ask why they have a need to worry about additional tracking devices? We already complied!

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    2. MWP,

      Turning of WIFI, Bluetooth and especially Location will stop the tracking and harvesting of your data.

      Only when directly targeted can they track you after that.

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    3. Thank you Canauzzie. However, I'm not so sure they aren't tracking us and "harvesting our data" without our knowing or agreement. A covert tracking seems much more likely to me given what we know about the deep state and their connections to google, apple, facebook, etc.

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    4. MWP,

      To the best of my knowledge, what I said is accurate. This info comes from Black Hat and Def Con. They should know.

      That is why they want 5G so bad. It will allow them to harvest everything without direct third party involvement.

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  44. https://newsthud.com/breaking-harvard-responds-to-trump-pushes-back-on-his-call-to-return-the-millions-they-received/

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  45. A leaked internal Labour Party report has hit the headlines because of lurid statements allegedly made by staff. What has been missed however, receiving barely any coverage, is an apparent admission that, using a secret deal with Facebook and Twitter, the Labour Party has been running automated surveillance on its own members. If true, this is manifestly unlawful – each member affected would almost certainly have a valid claim in damages under Data Protection legislation.

    In the furore about the leaked Labour report, many commentators have focused on the supposedly racist, sexist, and / or ableist remarks. There is also the apparent dishonest treacherous plotting. It is important to remember of course that this report was produced by a bitterly infighting party and its contents are disputed. Former staff who were criticised claim that accusations about their conduct were never put to them.

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  46. CDC lab for coronavirus test kits may be contaminated

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-lab-for-coronavirus-test-kits-may-contaminated-report

    So, WHY do people continue to listen to the FOR PROFIT CDC?

    The Trump administration has reportedly ordered an investigation into a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) lab in Atlanta that was in charge of assembling coronavirus test kits after a scientist with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) raised concerns that the lab itself may be “contaminated,” possibly leading to faulty test kits, according to reports.
    Timothy Stenzel, the director of the Office of In Vitro Diagnostics and Radiological Health, went to the CDC lab in Atlanta last week to help “troubleshoot whatever technical problems might have been occurring with the tests” in an effort to get them to market faster, Axios first reported. Though not a lab inspector, Stenzel reportedly noticed “inappropriate procedures and possible contaminants” at the lab, raising his concerns to federal officials, which ultimately prompted the investigation.

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  47. Almost 800 UK recorded Virus deaths again yesterday but with delayed reporting on community and care home deaths not unreasonable to assume over 1,000 more likely.
    But, with the hype hysteria loose we are failing to spot 2,500 cancers a day with Doctors surgeries closed,as well as missing millions of slots for other care needs.

    Assume the UK will soon be Europe's worst affected.
    We don't test and the ones we do are false putting key staff at cruel risk..

    Our PPE ordering is pathetic. Our testing abysmal. We build 4,000 bed special. Virus hospitals then Turn 40 patients away because we have no nurses to cover it.
    We have no infected patients tracking system no do we ever hit a target. But we never miss a slot for these Wassocks to appear on TV talking no sense
    Laurel and Hardy run the NHS. And poor little Boris sucks his thumb in the Chequered Govt Care home where he needs a kick in the Ass and back to work.
    F Children ruling Fools who put them in Office.

    So much media dissinfo needs to be taken with care.
    Clueless, the lot. What is truth?, History will tell us.

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  48. I respectfully disagree to your statement "History will tell us." History will tell us something, but VERY seldom the truth. Remember, WHO is writing the history? It's all perspective.

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    1. Vietnamese war. Hell No we won't go?

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    2. John,
      Your reply makes absolutely no sense?

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    3. The hippie culture did very little, to the point they were radicalizing towards violence as they were getting no where.

      Body bags and dollars, with the total lack of any possible victory ended the war.

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  49. Tip: Virtually every smartphone can be used as a pulse oximeter. Download the app.

    If you get sick, follow your O2 saturation with the smartphone. If your O2 starts to drop, and falls below 90%, it's time to get yourself to an Emergency Room. If it holds steady at greater than 90%, hold tight.

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  50. Carman / Tino

    The official position of the UK today is that any vaccine is at least 1 to 2 years away because of actual production distribution because Big Pharma will prioritise prices and distribution points.
    It's protective capabilities will be less in Elders so while it helps, Elders will now need to life plan.

    We are going to need to download tracing links to our phones so we can be advised to lock down if having known contact to an infected person. Only accepting the link will allow us to step back from lock down when applicable

    The new dilemma, and it's out of the box, what happens when another big one arrives? They have modelled real pandemics and it's scary projections. Clearly they think Pandora's Box now opened will unleash more.
    .
    They are looking at an entirely different life style dynamic. Our own Bottom Feeder Grunts wait only to fly out on summer holiday boozing and Bonking flights to Spain bringing back God knows what. Cheap booze and brain dead what can go wrong? If you laid into them with a torque wrench it won't sink in. What would we be allowing back in, infected with what? Europe expects more issues and our own Stupidos will walk right into it.
    We seem now to be accepting we just opened the box. What next and when? What system can we now put in place to contain it earlier.

    Serious thinking now.

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    1. Vaccine... no thanks.

      App on phone? NO!

      You speak against lock down, say you will travel. Yet others who will are grunts and Stupidos. Are you saying only a certain class can travel?

      Governments have over stepped. If we allow this to continue, we will loose more of our freedoms. Once a government expands its powers, it never relinquishes.

      This all needs to end now. All of it. Or it changes forever.

      Who will benefit from continuation of this charade? The exact entities we are supposed to be fighting against.

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    2. Tracking link on my phone?.... NO!

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    3. This entire thing is over blown... they have instilled fear in many sheeple... hopefully, many many others that are awake will stand up!

      Paladin vid above seems to nail it!

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    4. That scenario may fly with Brits...I don’t know.
      It won’t here. No vaccines, tracking apps, RFID chips, nanobots, or any other nefarious crap the globalists are dreaming up...not only no, but hell no!

      John, bless your heart, you must stop drinking all that Kool Aid.

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    5. An app on phones will be the try on. But your phones are bugged to hell anyway, get real. So refuse, no problem. Our dumb State Cruts are so stupid we hear them talking when they fail to secure their monitors properly. We live with it.

      Travelling in our home nations now, for sure we should do, and I DO! But YES, the DUMB, Bottom Feeding STUPIDOS who want to fly to the Med, Cheapo Flights, Cheap Booze, Cheap Hotels and Spain dripping with Covid, is like throwing a Child to the Wolves. Our own Low Life Morons with No Standards, are asking to get mass infected then fly home again as Carriers, All the work we have done will be wasted, an a new Pandemic is ignited because Shit for Brains were not muzzled. How many innocents die then, is this worth allowing? They go, they stay!

      It IS changed and has changed, they went into Lock Downs like Lambs. Clueless of any realities. The lot, clueless as to why?

      1. The vaccine will take up to 2 years , if then?
      2. Official policy is there are no reliable drugs yet to use which are safe.Yes we all know the suggested ranges.
      3. The Lock Down will continue in part for a year, but selective for sure. Be assured Covid wont go for a while yet and more innocents will die. Covid is like no other virus so far. Elders are truly at serious risk if having any underlying issues. Most have! So having gone to so far to level this thing off, do I give a dam about blocking our low life's from bringing it back from the Costa's threatening lives again.? Hell No, who dies for these selfish creeps?

      Time to crank up creep control. Leading with balanced discretion. Let those who need to travel in our nation, do so within reason. Re start the economy . But with great care. It's all changed now. Seismic changes are coming. With it-Trouble!
      Already our people are driving at week ends.
      Vaccinations are a choice when ready. Lets wait and see first. Which versions?
      Yes Covid has been over rated, but it's still a serious killer.It needs commensurate care for all. Applied thought.

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    6. It's a typical bad flu season... nothing more, like we have had before. Many, many times. Treating this any differently is wrong... full stop.

      Goebbels would be envious.



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    7. Maybe we already have the vaccine. Have you all watched this video?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMK9wtY_LwA

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  51. President has handed off powers to FEMA... This 10 minute video shows clips proving this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=128&v=HahhDIeq1Ck&feature=emb_logo

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    1. This is false propaganda..please do not share FEAR. Paladin said it is not true.

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  52. Newly Declassified Documents Show John Kerry’s State Department Spread Russia Collusion Narrative

    https://thegreggjarrett.com/newly-declassified-documents-show-john-kerrys-state-department-spread-russia-collusion-narrative/

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  53. “Give this some thought!

    From Trey Gowdy:
    I'm not saying Covid-19 isn't real... But Pay attention folks, there's much more going on here than what meets the eye.

    Is it a coincidence that just when the economy is booming, the stock market is setting record highs, we are winning the trade wars, school shootings have stopped, our nation is at peace, the Democratic party is a disaster and so is their likely nominee(Biden). He hasn't a chance in hell & they're not about to let an outsider(Bernie) destroy their scheme.

    It looks like Trump is a sure bet for reelection after fending off 3 years of investigations and impeachment, then all the sudden world crisis pandemic. Stock market tumbles, companies are laying off employees, everything is closed and canceled, CEO's of giant companies are resigning and indictments are coming.

    Now they say there are a couple ways a President doesn't win reelection. Those are an unpopular war or a poor economy.

    But there is something larger going on here driving this sudden outbreak right after Trump beats an impeachment. Especially the fact that it(Corona virus)originated in China who we are in a global trade war with brought on by Trump. Let's not forget Biden's back door deals with CHINA as well.

    China doesn't want 4 more years of Trump either. It all seems rather convenient for the nations and opponents of our current President and economy 5 months before an election. Couldn't have hit at a more perfect time.

    With the Democrats running out of campaign talking points in light of no school shootings, no migrant caravans at the southern border, fighting in Syria winding down, North Korea not firing missiles and Trump beating a sham impeachment. The corona virus gave them one last hail Mary to try and point fingers at Trump with the clock winding down in 2020.
    This is almost the perfect fascist playbook. Control the population with fear-mongering and panic, control the media, spread propaganda and the fan-favorite disarm the population. Oh, and did anyone notice that while they are mad as hell at Trump for not sending aid to Ukraine, they THEMSELVES voted AGAINST giving ANY emergency aid to all Americans ?

    Sorry but I don't think we are all going to die. Remember when Ebola was what was going to kill us all, and the media kept showing the piles of body bags that were prepared for the fallout. Then a month later it was totally forgotten.

    The common flu has killed more people this year already and the media is SILENT!

    A handful of deaths out of 320 million Americans and we are in panic tearing down our society and costing our economy billions in the wake. It all just seems fishy, a little too well-timed if you ask me.

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    1. Although I am not personally willing, yet anyway, to hang this as a Democrats conspiracy, there is no doubt that the left has politicized this. That alone proves total disregard for the general public. The leftist media coverage is unforgivable.

      Anyone who cared to pay attention in the beginning, not allowing to be persuaded by the hype, could see it was no where near worth the fear being promoted.

      As I see it, the US is the only country that can save us from this Nazi style hostile takeover.

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  54. tell us something we don`t know

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  55. French study of 1061 Covid patients being treated with HCQ-AZ. 91% success rate. Observational, non-controlled study. No use of ZN. And in contrast with other reports today, "No cardiac toxicity was observed."


    French study, 1061 patients

    Hopefully one of Tino's colleagues can write up a report for MedRxiv so we can have much wider knowledge of benefit of ZN in the protocol.

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  56. 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨From Justice Anna...

    I Want to Vomit All Over the Smoking Gun

    My cats have often astounded me with their forthright reactions to things. If they really, really don't like a visitor to my house, they will pee on him or her and help assure a prompt removal of the Offender. If they encounter something truly objectionable in the shared environment, they will reliably vomit on it, thus drawing my (unavoidable) attention to the pertinent issues.

    I've had to apologize--vaguely--- for "losing" contract proposals as a result of their un-politically correct demise at the paws and jaws of certain felines. Invariably, when the cat vomit has been scraped off, I have discovered that the immediately underlying contract language of the offer was deceitful.

    Though crude, the Cat Method of communicating when something or someone is dreadfully wrong, is effective and attention-provoking -- a regular silent fire alarm. I wish to provoke a somewhat similar attention-getting response with my headline today, with similar urgency.

    On March 26, 2020, Microsoft applied for an International Patent with WIPO -- a patent for a body-interfaced cryptocurrency, using an implanted microchip connected to a cloud computer system, which also just happens to collect "biometric data" --- your DNA sequence, blood, electrical synapse activity, etc., etc., etc. The WIPO Patent Application Number just happens to be: 060606.

    So. Bill Gates has aimed at nothing less than total invasion of your biological privacy and control of your ability to buy, sell, or trade anything.

    Smoking gun, anyone?

    Bill Gates is an international criminal who has purposefully misused and abused and misdirected the resources of Microsoft, Incorporated, to promote criminal control and surveillance objectives. He needs to be arrested without further delay and brought to trial for crimes against humanity already committed.

    Bill Gate's evil and invasive control system agenda which is apparently still being pursued by Microsoft, needs to be permanently derailed---if necessary, via liquidation of Microsoft and WIPO as crimes syndicates engaged in promoting illegal surveillance and control systems, and the protection of profit from these repugnant activities via the issuance of criminal patents.

    It's not just the "National Security" of every national government on Earth that is at stake here, it's your right to your own life, to your bodily privacy, to your "common right" to buy, sell, and trade without any corporate eye in the sky being involved.

    It's time to smash Microsoft into the dirt for this, along with all the executives, engineers, "future planners" and attorneys that had a hand in this.

    Let's also give a big Hairball Award to The Council on Foreign Relations--- the leadership of which also needs to be arrested for promotion of illegal and repugnant population control and eugenics agendas-- for their latest propaganda in their publication "Foreign Affairs" attempting to gin up a jihad against China for criminal activities that they have themselves been promoting.

    The Pot does too often call the Kettle black.

    They chose China as the point source to start their corona virus crappola, thinking that that would be sufficient to blackmail China and grease the wheels to blame China for the whole 5G "pandemic" debacle --- but it is backfiring on them.

    More and more pieces of the puzzle come in and get put in place:

    George Soros funding the lab in Wuhan.

    Anthony Fauci funding it and providing the biological feedstocks for it.

    Bill Gates investing in the virus strains and vaccine manufacturing and microchip technology.

    Cont’d....

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    1. Cont’d....

      All of it. All of them. The whole "picture".

      One does not have to be a cat to experience rising gorge when confronted with such obvious malicious, self-interested, inhumane, profit-motivated behavior.

      And one does not need a ten hour tutorial to understand what these men intended for humanity, or need to ponder a great deal over which institutions and organizations have assisted and promoted their anti-human and anti-human rights agenda.

      May what they wished for all of us, be returned to all of them.

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    2. They each should get ALL vaccines given to them all at the same time.

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  57. There's no excess mortality, in fact, it is reduced mortality.

    And the CDC refuses to show the graph.

    We were near 58,000 dead at this point last year.

    We are at 40,000 dead, Official CDC data.

    We are also massively below the medians. Can we lift the lockdowns? There's literally reduced mortality.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData12.csv

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#52

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    1. Problem #1: They will claim it is due to the lock downs.

      Problem #2: They will never admit they were wrong or made a dreadful mistake.

      Problem #3: Healthcare budgets have increased, they will not want to lose it.

      Problem #4: Government has expanded its powers, they never relinquish.

      Problem #5: Wealthy do not want the unwashed free.

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    2. Well, it IS due to lockdowns. We are like multiple standard deviations below the media.

      The healthcare budgets are all collapsed. The prohibition on elective medicine has killed 80% of the revenue.

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    3. Sorry Tino, I should have left the Healthcare budget out as it does not apply the same in the US. It matters here.

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    4. Ah, of course, I meant U.S. budgets...

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    5. Canauzzie was gracious enough to point out to me that the data is 8 weeks trailing due to CDC procedures. However, even so, we are for the earlier data not looking even as bad as 2017-2018 season.

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  58. Proof the numbers are being fudged by orders of magnitude. No worse than a mild flu...

    "USC and the LA County Department of Public Health on Monday released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread — and the fatality rate much lower — in L.A. County than previously thought".

    Early antibody testing suggests COVID-19 infections in L.A. County greatly exceed documented cases

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    1. If we can trust the test and the data, that would suggest Covid-19 is what is expected from a typical influenza virus.

      Yet the fear mongering goes on....

      “These results indicate that many persons may have been unknowingly infected and at risk of transmitting the virus to others,” said Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health. “These findings underscore the importance of expanded polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing to diagnose those with infection so they can be isolated and quarantined while also maintaining the broad social distancing interventions.

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    2. Canauzzie the big takeaway I got from this report is that the mortality rate is being greatly overestimated. The reported mortality rate for LA Country prior to the study is 4.3% of those infected. But these findings indicate that 21 times more people are actually infected than previously thought (but show no symptoms, at least not enough to warrant a hospital visit) so the true mortality rate is more like 0.2% of those infected.

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    3. Unfortunately, it seems the widespread *antibody* testing used in Santa Clara and LA County is as much garbage as the coronavirus direct test. Field reports place false positives at 13 false positives for every 1 true positive.

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    4. I wouldn’t even allow a “test.” The swab would be a good way to SPREAD disease if laced with bacteria/virus/fungi...whatever. I certainly have no trust left in “healthcare.” It’s as corrupt as “government.” Very sad state of affairs. In fact, I can’t even imagine what it would take for me to regain any trust.

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    5. The Dr leading the research was asked a question in the briefing about the false positive rate and he stated 0.5%.

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    6. ... in other words the test was 99.5% accurate.

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  59. The tests are garbage, most don't work, Chinese knock offs. We can't trust the data or even the deaths. Here care home deaths run weeks behind day reporting and deaths in the community are not added to day reports we are only reporting hospital deaths and those are bad enough.

    The value of the site is to enable open debate and fair contested opinions to challenge Cabal abuse and NWO risks .
    But also alert changing realities and reasons why we need to reconsider the seriousness of this virus and it's multi level death threats to Elders and Medical staff. Dying to help others live. Since becoming deeply involved in helping others secure PPE shortfalls, I have had occasion to rethink my own assessment of the complexity of what we are dealing with.
    Do we want our families existing now as Lab Rats in Care Homes, our Doctors and Nurses exposed to a real Life taking killer,? This thing is not going away it's going to annihilate the Third World and if we don't adjust to ensure protective conduct, no one is safe. That said, masks, handwashibg and social distancing will go a long way to drop infections. But mass gatherings have to be blocked. It's right to blocks Pubs, Clubs and mass Spectator sports. But how then do we deal with Cafes and Restaurants , many of which are facing livelyhoods and debts? Paper plates, disposable cutlery? It's in real discussion here.
    Compulsory masks for all public space sharing travelling like trains?
    So many real issues Plus of course the dangers of Gates and Soros.

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  60. Time, i think, to stop talking about fear mongering for a real, bona fides pandemic issue.

    1. Yes, thank God the deaths are lower than projected, so far. But still REAL Deaths.

    2. But, our valued Medical Professionals at all levels of the spectrum, are dying.

    3. I can only talk of our own NHS procurement system. It's inept, incompetent and fails everyone. But our own UK Military have been outstanding with complex logistics planning getting key items where procured out to so any sources. Huge accolades. But our systems, are abysmal.
    So much work to do there.

    4. The hard reality is that we alone, need to rethink reality, as the figures are now proven to be wrong. We alone are losing c1,000 a day and that's bad.

    5. Don't lets confuse the Lock Down shambles with the virus reality. Multiple Train Drivers and Bus Drivers have died with Covid. The risk to Air crew flying is high. Sending out Tourists to a high infection country like Spain, with its cheap flights, cheap hotels, cheap booze, already rife and rampant with STD's invites allowing the trash of our societies loose like rampant Bullocks, only to fly back then mass infecting passengers and crew. Infecting airports and taking it right back into mass communities. Madness! We have seen how useless our own State is with PPE supplies. Sod Muppets freedom, think life for all!

    6. Yes we need to review lock down but we need to take a hard line with high risks. Singapore is hit again having to re impose lock downs hard now. Hard truths cost.

    7. Yes, Health Care budgets have gone up and will continue to climb now. How about we cut the Military budgets worldwide and re fund the right to life for those deserving?

    8. The power of the State was raised, and Yes it's worrying. I've seen total populations subjugated willingly, like the Nazis in 1941 to 3. Round up. They have resigned like sheep en masse. As they do with taxes. I believe the Ruling Elites have now seen how malleable their Puppets are. I hear them jabbering the party line Brain dead. Abject surrender. Unreal. I am seeing a walk in the park for NWO here.

    9. Tri Laterals seeing this will note the level of resistance is infinitesimal. Total Kool Aid mass subjugation. Pandoras box. Round up time was just trialled and worked. Complete abdication. Now THAT should worry you all. This IS one of the only thinking sites out there. What I have seen says it all. We gave them the keys to the door. Did Societies ever need you more?

    10. Yes the deaths are less than forecast, but still real. Worse, no end is in sight. No planning. We have to get masks out and rethink lock downs. A balanced sensible approach.


    If the Buggers want to holiday in High Risk areas like Spain, as with Oz and thinking countries, deny entry back from risk areas without Quarantine testing. We need passenger arrivals testing at Airports. Look at Airport body frisking before you leave. Your bringing back what and no checks? WTF???

    We need to face Covid and deal with it openly, not as now. It's NOT going away and I for one am now concerned about what the hell is loose now. There is no evidence of herd immunity developing safely. Lab Rats trapped in Care Homes, where is our Humanity? Carers have protection. PPE is a Disaster Zone. Governments? Puke making imbeciles. That rules fools? Covid deaths are less but it's more!

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    1. John,
      Has 5G been rolled out in London and/or throughout U.K.?

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    2. It seems the “virus hot spots” also coincide with 5G rollout in those areas...imagine that.

      Scientists are reporting that 5G degrades oxygen to the point that makes it impossible to sustain life with symptoms as people are describing of struggling to breathe. Then when put on a ventilator it blows out the lungs and hastens death. The patients treated with oxygen therapy through CPAP with oxygen are more likely to recover.

      Instead of locking down everyone, STOP 5G at least until it can be fully studied and analyzed. It appears the case may have already been made that 5G is very detrimental to health. Shut down the NWO depopulation agenda.

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    3. Oh John,

      Our Sun is orbiting the Galactic Center at 220 km/s dragging our rock in its wake in which we orbit it at 30 km/s. The whole time of recorded history known to us Mother nature and the Universe in general has been trying to kill us. We have survived plagues, war, economic collapse, currency collapses, poisons, and so on.... Yet we are to give it all up now for a man made bug, that is no worse than typical influenza that data from the start, growing each day, is proving? No thanks.

      You are welcome to go full on Howard Hughes if you like, leave me out of it. I will gladly live in squalor with the great unwashed and enjoy my time on this earth.

      Last flu pandemic, 2009, new strain of H1N1. Some studies estimated that 11 to 21 percent of the global population at the time, or around 700 million to 1.4 billion people contracted the illness. It only resulted in about 284,000 (range from 150,000 to 575,000) fatalities for the 2009 pandemic. A follow-up study done in September 2010 showed that the risk of serious illness resulting from the 2009 H1N1 flu was no higher than that of the yearly seasonal flu. For comparison, the WHO estimates that 250,000 to 500,000 people die of seasonal flu annually.

      Looking for herd immunity during a lock down the world has never seen before, that sounds practical.... Funny thing is, blood donor banks are showing a higher rate of infection, even with the Einsatzgruppen patrolling the streets.

      Sorry to salt your Koolaid, hope it is still potable for ya....

      I think I am just getting started talking about the fear mongering.... for real!

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    4. Fear is what its all about...
      Well said CANAUZZIE...
      Need to spend about an hour understanding your numbers with my pea size brain!

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  61. Sorry should read Carers have NO protection.

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  62. Harbin in North Est China has just adopted Draconian Powers locking down 10 M people as a Student has just returned from New York and infected 70 people. We quarantine Dogs. Let's do the same with Airport testing for all incoming. We really need to shut down flying to China and infected countries for 3 more months. It's insane! This keeps happening. Wake up!

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  63. Proof that the virus is real, and manmade, BUT the mass death numbers are a hoax and the shutdown on society is the hoax.

    Hear Fox News White House reporter with YOUR OWN EARS!

    https://banned.video/watch?id=5e9f807dfa7c0500942db0bc

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    1. That vid is misleading... they cut off the end... you need to listen to the whole vid... the guy asked if it was a hoax and the guy that walked in said no.... Alex Jones cut off the part that comes after the guy asks if it was a hoax... misleading vid.

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    2. Really? Then why did he walk in saying "take off your mask"?? That wasn't cut out?

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    3. Gees... watch the entire vid!... he is talking about the numbers coming in way lower!
      so take off the mask in other words... Why did Alex cut off the part i"m talking about?... just listen without the conspiracy theory bias... not everything is a conspiracy conversation.

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    4. It's a live mic recording before Trump press conference. Who cares if it's Alex Jones reporting. This is available elsewhere. They are talking about the LA report on higher infection rate that Tino posted.

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  64. https://twitter.com/i/status/1252390291018878979

    Entire vid.... at the end he says “No, I don’t think it was a hoax.”

    It was just a convo between to peeps!

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  65. This could be some good news. In contrast with Tino's concern about antibody tests having more false positives than true ones, this new test from Arup Labs in Utah claims "False-positive results are possible in a small percentage of individuals."

    Arup Labs Covid-19 antibody test

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    1. They all say that. Nonetheless, let's see what it picks up!

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    2. The reported false positive rate in the USC study in LA County was 0.5%.

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    3. Don't believe a word. The idea that this picks up ONLY nCov2019 is fantasy.

      You can read the counter-analysis here and it is damning:

      https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-20-stanford-study-claiming-bogus-science-china-test-kits-false-positive-covid-19.html

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    4. I brought up the Arup test because they have developed the kits themselves, not imported them from China. And, "to evaluate cross-reactivity, a total of 182 specimens from individuals representing 36 different medical conditions were tested using the COVID-19 IgG, Qualitative by CIA assay. Of these, 181 specimens yielded negative results, whereas one specimen yielded a positive result." Now that's not definitive, but it's a whole lot better than 2 positives from 15 neg samples in the tests of the Stanford-used kits performed by a Denmark company, cited in the naturalnews article. So, using the Arup kits should produce more reliable results.

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    5. The LA County study mentioned by JohnF is different from the Stanford study cited in naturalnews.

      1) "Participants for the USC-L.A. County study were recruited by the market services firm LRW Group using a large proprietary database that ensures factors such as age, race and sex are part of the random selection." So this study did not suffer from the self-selection bias discussed with regard to the Stanford study.

      2) " The company also tested 371 COVID-19-negative patients, with only two false positives." Apparently these tests were more accurate than the Stanford tests.

      So, it seems that their estimate of 2.8-5.6% of the population having antibodies carries more weight. And they'll be resampling another 1000 people every few weeks.

      LA County report

      USC report

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    6. Good catch Pete.

      But it still doesn't cross-check because the antigen test looks like an arbitrary classifier of no prognostic value. Remember, unless there's a reference I missed, they never purified the snot from multiple atypical pneumonia victims, didn't verify by electron microscope that it buds in culture, didn't take the highly purified supernatants and infect virgin animals, having done that repurify and repeat the steps to verify that this sucker is the actual infection agent.

      What they did do is took a reported RNA sequence as a proxy and built a PCR test around it with an arbitrary 32-cycle cutoff. Completely forgetting that exosomes come off stressed cells in droves and that arbitrary cross-bind does happen all the time.

      At this point researchers have built everything on a sand foundation.

      Of course, if they are right, it supports ending the lockdowns. Two 14-days cycles and associated hospital fright, and we would be effectively done with it due to herd immunity kicking in.

      Of course, if they are wrong, all we know is that overall mortality is low (no excess mortality either), and we should still end the lockdowns.

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  66. I don't know what's happening with my brethren in the profession:

    IF THIS IS TRUE:

    Collapsed air sacs causing hypoxia
    As for why COVID-19 patients are suffering from what Dr. Levitan and his colleagues have dubbed the “silent hypoxia,” he explains that it has to do with the air sacs in the patients’ lungs. The coronavirus goes after lung cells that make the surfactant compounds that help these air sacs stay open in between breaths.

    With the surfactant-making cells under attack, there’s not enough of the material to go around to keep the air sacs open. When the inflammation from COVID-19 starts, the air sacs collapse, causing oxygen levels to fall.

    Despite the drop in oxygen levels, however, the lungs remain complaint, and not stiff and heavy from fluid buildup — that comes later. Patients are then still able to expel carbon dioxide. Without a heavy buildup of carbon dioxide, patients don’t feel short of breath.

    THEN:

    Why aren't we use surfactant as drug? We have this in sufficient supply (it's relatively easy to make) and we use it in neonatal pediatrics for the premature neonate.


    I'm just puzzled as to why Doctors aren't trying things. When it is 4-to-1 to die on the ventilator, there is no ethical quandary.

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    1. Tino,

      I have seen a few ER doctors claim it resembles hypoxia and using the ventilators as they have been is actually damaging patient's lungs. Since March....

      You may find this DR interesting Tino. I like those who ask for help and admit they don't know instead talking down to you as if they know all using echo chamber responses either unwilling or incapable of critical thinking.

      FROM NYC ICU: DOES COVID-19 REALLY CAUSE ARDS??!!

      FROM NYC DOC: SHOULD COVID-19 VENTILATOR PROTOCALS BE CHANGED!!!

      NYC DOC: COVID19 - A New disease requiring NEW treatment

      For the medical community!!! Could COVID-19 be causing DIFFUSION hypoxemia??


      I am currently watching him being interviewed on April 10:

      Do COVID-19 Vent Protocols Need a Second Look?

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    2. Brave young Dr trying to do the right thing. You have to listen in between the words. He’ll be a sacrificial lamb to warn other Drs not to stray from “the protocol.” His career will be over...just like Dr Andrew Wakefield. 🀬πŸ₯΅

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    3. Yes, very familiar with this guy, one of the few that had the guts to go public with findings. Frankly, he saved a lot of lives by challenging protocol. My understanding is that his report is what triggered Dr. Gattinoni to look at his ventilated population and come out very strongly with go with the patient's status (correct the pO2) as opposed go with the pressure (universal PEEP protocol).

      It is an object lesson why the mavericks need to be allowed to talk to one another in all candor regardless of the power structure (both medical and political). You can't innovate out of a mess the way medicine operates.

      Incidentally, there are apparently up to a dozen Chinese studies that had already verified chloroquine as strongly active against the coronovirus family of bugs.

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    4. Canauzzie, thanks for those links. I had missed the Diffusion Hypoxemia one. He's definitely chasing down the right rabbit hole.

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  67. Proving they learned nothing from the Pandemic, Starbucks intends to open a $130 million roasting facility... in China.

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    1. Large corporations won't care.

      Last I checked Starbucks was in the top 5 benefactors for suing state governments when trying to pass legislation forcing the labelling of foods containing GMOs. I have not, by choice, had a Starbucks since. That was easy. Pepsi and Coke too for the most part, I am weak sometimes.

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    2. Starbucks coffee is terrible IMO. They obtain the cheapest, most bitter beans then burn the hell out of them...at least that’s what it tastes like. Of course if you go for mostly foamy milk, lots of sugar, some cinnamon maybe you wouldn’t notice.

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    3. I prefer the coffee I make at home. I have an Italian machine that fresh grinds to my specific coarseness. Second would be a little coffee shop in a bi-level strip mall in a laundromat Jasper. That lady knows her stuff. Third, funny enough, is in Jasper as well, Jasper Park Lodge. They give you a coffee press, very nice.

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    4. The sad part of it all was Starbucks was born as a response to the dilution of brand-based can coffee. We had truly fantastic coffee. Then the brands began to blend in cheaper and less flavorful to increase profit/maintain price-points. This went on for years, until Starbucks came in with over-priced but truly flavorful coffee. And now, the same process that diluted the flavor of the can brands, has diluted the Starbucks brand, and its all crap tasting.

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    5. Canauzzie...local coffee roasters are much preferred here as well. They’re typically very good and tend to be less expensive also. Home brew with special beans is awesome. When I feel like treating myself, I order a pound of Kona beans. πŸ˜‰

      Tino...guess I was late for the “truly flavorful coffee” at Starbucks or perhaps they didn’t arrive in our area when that was the case.

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    6. If anyone even thinks of taking away my home made Italian coffee, they will die quickly. Not happening. I live for good coffee. LOL
      Aurataya.

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  68. The following write-up, in some form or another, is currently circulating the internet with claims that it was written by Former U.S. Representative Trey Gowdy. It was not written by him, but it sure expresses some of my personal sentiments:
    I'm not saying Covid-19 isn't real... But Pay attention folks, there's much more going on here than what meets the eye.
    Is it a coincidence that just when the economy is booming, the stock market is setting record highs, we are winning the trade wars, school shootings have stopped, our nation is at peace, the Democratic party is a disaster and so is their likely nominee. He hasn't a chance.
    It looks like Trump is a sure bet for reelection after fending off 3 years of investigations and impeachment, then all the sudden world crisis pandemic. Stock market tumbles, companies are laying off employees, everything is closed and canceled, CEO's of giant companies are resigning, and indictments are coming.
    Now they say there are a couple ways a President doesn't win reelection; an unpopular war or a poor economy.
    But there is something larger going on here driving this sudden outbreak right after Trump beats an impeachment. Especially the fact that Corona virus originated in China, with whom we are in a global trade war. Let's not forget Biden's back door deals with CHINA as well.
    China doesn't want 4 more years of Trump either. It all seems rather convenient for the nations and opponents of our current President and economy 5 months before an election. Couldn't have hit at a more perfect time.
    With the Democrats running out of campaign talking points in light of no school shootings, no migrant caravans at the southern border, fighting in Syria winding down, North Korea not firing missiles and Trump beating a sham impeachment, the corona virus gave them one last hail Mary to try and point fingers at Trump with the clock winding down in 2020.
    This is almost the perfect fascist playbook. Control the population with fear-mongering and panic, control the media, spread propaganda and the fan-favorite disarming of the population. Oh, and did anyone notice that while they are mad at Trump for not sending aid to Ukraine, they THEMSELVES voted AGAINST giving ANY emergency aid to all Americans?
    Sorry but I don't think we are all going to die. Remember when Ebola was what was going to kill us all, and the media kept showing the piles of body bags that were prepared for the fallout. Then a month later it was totally forgotten.
    The common flu has killed more people this year already and the media is SILENT! A handful of deaths out of 320 million Americans and we are in panic tearing down our society and costing our economy billions in the wake. It all just seems fishy, a little too well-timed if you ask me.

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    1. On this I must say Trump is simply wrong. Because regular vaccines lead to lethal hypersensitivity reactions, they are trying the DNA vaccine approach.

      DNA vaccines are frankly dangerous. Even if it works, would you let a little piece of foreign DNA in from the current bunch of globalists...?

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    2. ... he also suggested we should inject ourselves with disinfectant .....

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  70. Released by Bill Gates today...Vax section is a must read, while the rest reads like he wrote the script Govts across the globe are following in "lock step". Heaven help us all!

    The first modern pandemic
    By Bill Gates| April 23, 2020

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  71. Gates is one of the most hated men in the world and belongs in GITMO!!

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  72. Remdesivir, a drug widely touted to help fight coronovirus has abysmally failed tests. It was one of the drugs Trump claimed was promising. It's not.

    Chinese scientists now warn Vaccine Developers of 33 new strains found.

    Britain is moving to introduce Airport screening of passengers. Once vaccines are out, if not evidencing your certified as clear, you won't get a ticket to fly in. Lock out.

    France and Britain will open travel May 11 th if no more outbreaks.

    Global DEATHS confirmed so far as 190,872. Infected 2,709, 483.
    That's a lot of real dead and will be with us for years. Tragic for so many.

    The UK has confirmed it will use its new Vaccines if working to treat UK nationals first. That has caused some dissent. How so? We made it, we paid for it. We use it.

    But beyond all issues, we have just seen the biggest mass subjugation on the planet. Confirmed the Sheeple are ready for round up if determined. Into the night, without a fight. In the stores I see mindless factory chickens jumping their own shadows if even near 6 feet of you. No reason, factored stupidity is growing. Drones replaced next by Cones? We are losing the people to Sheeple. Cannon fodder all drinking the Kool Aid.

    We lose 200K people and it will grow, but we opine it's not so bad. If your the new dead? So, it's not the Spanish Flue, but its now. It's here and it's very real real. Ask very worried NHS staffers. Their life for a lie and No PPE?

    Leaders don't and it's a shambles. The worst mutations I find, are those in power.
    The Economic costs are yet to hit home, but will. Both China and Singapore are locking down again. How bad will it be for the Third World with no voice? So many lives lost.
    We need the TRUTH of WHY on Covid?

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  73. Big High Tech Camera Tracking Systems are now about to issue social distance mass warnings for any too close and segregate you in public, offices, stores or in factories. Unreal! The final public herd round up. Already we see mindless IDIOTS jumping out of our way in public if we dare pass within 10 feet. Panicking Weasels. Total morons. I must adopt a cough for fun to rattle a few. Like Pavlov's Dogs for experiments, the lot it seems, are now Lab Rats. Can so many, be so crassly stupid? It's becoming like walking through a Factory farm. When did people mentally die for this Deep State factored lie?
    New World Order has just crossed our border. Illegals loot and our Police just revenue screw the public. The economy is on the brink. Judgement calls, but who qualifies? Funded absenteeism as they bask in the sun. Until the money runs out. Hopefully not. But I have seen a Sheeple whose time is on notice.

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    1. I went into a shop few weeks back and innocently cleared my throat. Heads whipped round so fast it's a wonder their eyes weren't in the back of their heads. And that was before lockdown really bit. No wonder they're paranoid now, it's had plenty of time to fester.
      Thanks to all for so much information. This 70 year old is in awe. And he ain't staying locked down for a year. Hell, I ain't got many more left to waste.

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    2. Been there, what mindless Dross heh?

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  74. Even as I write our worst fears are emerging. Only 3 weeks after unlocking, Spain has just this minute seen a large spike in infections with 6,740 recorded in 24 hours. That second wave if continues, will determine new Public Order Acts and harsh penalties waiting. I write of the risks of allowing our herds to roam in that mass infected place, and the next day. Bang! If this spike continues, it may cause real issues of control soon. Draconian lock downs are ready if needed. But then no food, money or medical supplies to support all.
    We hope on our vaccines. If we fail and spike again ??????????? Be clear NWO is now here!

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    1. Oh for Pete's sake. Based on actuals, this isn't even as bad as the 2017-2018 season. We need herd immunity to end it. Send folks out with masks and let's live a little.

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    2. John you should go to work for CNN, the doom and gloom that you constantly post is truly amazing, there has been enough evidence posted here to assure you that this whole virus situation is blown way out of proportion and is totally designed for social engineering. While yes there is a virus but the numbers the media, CDC,& the WHO spew out are all bullshit designed to scare the hell out of the public and its working especially on you.

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  75. https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/ 

    Another pre-planned False Flag and here is the proof!!

    Event 201

    The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.

    Statement about nCoV and our pandemic exercise:

    https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/center-news/2020-01-24-Statement-of-Clarification-Event201.html

    In recent years, the world has seen a growing number of epidemic events, amounting to approximately 200 events annually. These events are increasing, and they are disruptive to health, economies, and society. Managing these events already strains global capacity, even absent a pandemic threat.

    Experts agree that it is only a matter of time before one of these epidemics becomes global—a pandemic with potentially catastrophic consequences. A severe pandemic, which becomes “Event 201,” would require reliable cooperation among several industries, national governments, and key international institutions.

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  76. Numerous HIV Drugs hoped to help negate Covide 19 have failed in testing, including AbbiVies Ketra HIV drug. No easy solutions yet. Hard leg work and innovation.

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    1. That was always unrealistic. If the gene sequencers are right the HIV aspect is just insertion facilitation.

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  77. And...more info out of England to fuel the fire. Boy, are they wrong. Scaremongers should go to GITMO with the damage they cause to our very humanness.

    3/18/2020 – London’s Imperial College predicts millions will die from coronavirus pandemic in UK and US. Says US will see 56,100 deaths per day. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/03/18/covi-m18.html

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  78. MWP

    So much for any of their opinions heh? I, sit on the fence and multi position in case, but try to judge the big picture. It's all a minefield.

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    1. The situation is invariant. All roads lead to herd immunity to exit. The economy can't stay shut anymore anyhow. No vaccine can be safely deployed in the current time frames. Given actuals don't even reach 2017-2018 flu season deaths I would think the answer is obvious.

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  79. Not to Politicos Tino.
    Both Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock had the virus. Each very ill. Each, first hand fear an upsurge as with China now and Spain again. But each know, if we unlock and it respikes the next lock down will be hard enforced and huge economic costs.
    Hopefully May 11 th onwards we can ease down but many will still be under authoritarian rule. Elders will suffer mindless repression if adearing to it. I decline, work and travel. I infect and harm no one nor will I submit like Sheeple. My life,my choice.
    So I for one wait to see the next 2 weeks. There is no way ours will see this as Flue nor NHS staffers. Front end they see the dying and hear from survivors. Non have ever been so Ill before . Flues we can self fight. This bastard we cant and it's who it can take we fear.
    So not so obvious and if it spikes again we will be locking down into the new year or worse. Way too much false vaccine Hopium for September out there. Either way we face a tricky 2 years. There are many Social changes under discussion. One more spike and towns will change forever. Right now who can call anything. If it re ignites political blame will spread. They fear Covid and worse what may yet follow. The unknown. Do cafes and restaurants open or not, the big dilemma. Second outbreaks started in China from Restaurants. It's a sore point many planners here want the lot shut into the New Year. Hopefully not but Politicos?

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    1. https://bigleaguepolitics.com/stanford-doctors-calls-for-ending-full-blown-lockdowns/

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  80. Scott F

    I've already said, I travel, speed and ignore the lot. I advise only what is going down,. not my tacit support unless stated.I for one am NOT adhering to lock down.
    But I am keeping a careful eye on where it's all going. The choices are as needed.
    It's also been seen on site I have helped a number of parties on site access PPE needs and core Chemicals like Shockwave. We are helping source the impossible, pro active real work, delivering protection for those in need.
    The decision to subjugate is for each person and case. I chose not to. I'm not an infection spreader, just a truth spreader. I care that we will lose up to half a million upwards from this crap. Any life saved to me is worth it. Excluding low lives and Zio's.

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  81. Good signs on the UK traffic is flooding to the beaches and parks, also to stores. The Brits are flouting and denying lock down today and stores are saying enough and opening. So our Politicos have a choice back off or face off. Interesting times.

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  83. https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/betrayal-california-gov-newsom-helps-chinese-get-1-billion-covid-aid/

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