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  1. To everyone,

    I was going to move OWON to a new home. It was taken longer than expected and I have missed the window of opportunity due to other obligations and projects that are ongoing. So I am reverting OWON back to its original form so it can be used.

    Changes are coming though....

    1. Glad that OWON is back on the air and thanks for the explanation! Thanks for all that you do!

    2. Thank you Canauzzie.


      Will you be sending out INVITES TO JOIN to our emails before/during the transition to a new site? (I was kinda in a panic when this site was not available yesterday.)


    4. Tim,

      You will not need an invite. It will be free to access by everyone. You will have to register to comment, but that is protect from spam, also allows me to keep out those who have violated our TOS or have been previously banned.

      The reason you saw that denial of access page is because the website would be broken and not functioning correctly. It would have been of no use. So I locked it off to everybody, no one had access but me so I could make the changes. I was overwhelmed by emails and choose not to respond. I had a small window and was going to revert back if needed. I was going to go another day, but the lack of a public explanation left too many getting the wrong impression. So I reverted back.

      A lot was done though. Next time it will be a maximum of 24hrs. Now that you all know what to expect we should be fine.

      It was not something I scheduled, the window of opportunity presented itself so I acted.

  2. The market can breath again with so much happening daily and a need for Global parties to keep in touch with alternative realities.

    But please, spare a thought for poor Italy, now locked down as a country to cope with this dreadful virus. They need us all to help with trade once we get the releases. Was there ever a time for Humanity to come together?

  3. Now, for parties tracking Releases.
    1.We were quietly advised weeks ago an attempt will be made to crash the markets by c50% to cash in on ruination and buy assets cheap. Bankers have form for this! What is truth, who knows but markets are falling fast. Sadly, always with implications.
    2. A certain Bank,are again playing games with releases due, and ever more of their Senior parties are departing in haste to evade Justice and live from ill gotten gains. Whats new?
    3. One, just 1 key PP fund released, if handled ethically between the Patriots and London, can generate such Trading Platform Profits and Taxes, as to re balance the US and UK. Taxed and Projects funded. Both! Without Greed, we can do so much good.
    4.Simply you would think. Try it. If and when achieved we will need many of you to assist. Otherwise what is the purpose of anything? What is- Truth? Whose?
    5. Post this virus we need to rethink economies and purpose. Can we retrack Humanity? Who cares? Many here do. So many in need. Life matters. Being more is key now. .

    1. I also read your comment as PP released. Made my day till I read below it didn't happen yet.

    2. Sadly but be assured, we are Pug Nacious and focused daily . Thank you for reading and covering positions.

  4. Tino.

    There appears to be 5 versions of Covid 19. I will source you the info. It's ugly!

    1. Thank you. As long as the 4 new strains are not as lethal as the original, we'll find a way to cope.

    2. No Tino. Create a far more lethal one just for Zios .

    3. John,

      Seems like the log jam finally broke. Getting a PP released finally has got to be a great start.

      M's, B's or T's?

      Does this lead to more progress?

    4. It's not released yet, we still need hands off. Our case is to allow then to continue some participation IF they start part releases. Even part, used right helps.

  5. As OWON seems to be far and away the most balanced reporting medium on this virus, the issues below you may find of interest. Your thoughts?

    Academician Xi Chong Nanshan has already delivered a speech on TV. Wuhan New Coronavirus is not the true source of the virus. There are 5 new coronavirus series, ABCDE bat sleeve BAT (H52) and then mutates H53> From person to person H13 (referred to as Grandpa of Family A). Then mutate the sequence number H3 (referred to as B family, grandma). The sequence number was mutated H1 (referred to as C family, son), (Wuhan virus incident in China). The serial number was then mutated H56 (referred to as D family, grandson), (Taiwan, Australia, the United States, and other regions worldwide). The serial number is then mutated to MV56 (referred to as E family, great-grandson), (Taiwan, Australia, especially the Middle East and Europe) and so on. The United States is where the world waits for virus incidents). There are more than 70,000 people infected with new coronavirus in China, and the pathogens are all maintained in H1 (C family son) However, the serial number of the infectious body in the United States had A, B, C, D, E, F (referred to as grandpa, grandma, son, grandson, great-grandson and other families) for influenza two years ago. Therefore, the source of the American virus A and B (the two grandfather families of grandparents) has mutated the five major families of ABCDE in their own countries, and then the C family was introduced into China. The C family pathogens in China, with variants of C56 and MV2, spread throughout the world. But the United States had five major families of ABCDE two years ago, the US Government CDC (Center Disease of Control) Concealing the illness, when a military contest was held in Wuhan in November, two American soldiers went to the Wuhan Hospital in Hubei to catch a cold. It was the first hospital in Wuhan, China, which discovered a coronavirus transmission in early December (Golden Eagle)  Tan Hospital and Wuhan Central Hospital). From this calculation, it should be that the US soldiers brought the virus into Wuhan in the Wuhan military competition, and the virus series H1 (referred to as the son) came to China. If China wants to check the origin of these two American blood sources, we can confirm the source. The US should have ABCDE two years ago (H13, H3, H1, H56, MV2) These five kinds of viruses have hundreds of pathogens in bats. Among them, the United States has mutated five kinds of pathogens. The United States has always been a stable fact.  This is why the U.S. government is in a hurry to send them Americans back to the United States, and is afraid to find pathogens from Americans.  In this way, the outbreak of the new coronavirus can rest on the Chinese. The viruses in the Middle East are MV2 and H56.  No such virus has been detected in China. The seriously ill Iranians said that they had never been to China and had no Chinese friends, but had been to the United States. The world knows that many wealthy people in Middle Eastern countries buy properties in the United States, and their children are also studying in the United States. I am going to write this article today and spread it to the seven major media in the world. My title will read "Americans are the tumors of the world's viruses." The Washington Post published the title of the article last month, stating "Chinese are sick men of East Asia", the birthplace of the virus. I let the world see the hypocrisy, viciousness, loss of conscience, and the spread of the virus to people all over the world.

    1. This is not likely to be correct. There are *many* coronavirus, *many* uncatalogued coronavirus, and it's very unlikely that they can be placed in evolutionary sequence in a logically consistent and defensible way.

      It is certainly false that we are the world's virus reservoir. I think, I'd have to check accuracy, but every post WW2 epidemic originated in the Far East. E.g. patient zero was always in the Far East. Unless you want to argue that along with Typhoid Mary, there is/are Corona Jane(s) that travel from the U.S. to China to infect. Which is exactly what he is implying. Which of course, is contradicted by the fact that we don't have patient Zero's of the various epidemics. How many Corona Janes would it take to go all the way back to WW2? Not rational.

      Unless this is a bioweapon, then the phylogeny can be somewhat ascertained because we know who the mother is. Mater certum est, 'mother is certain'. But this would blow his case out of the water because we have the paper trail. We have on record Obama's and Fauci's sale of the half-weaponized strain out of UNC BSL-3 to China, the Canadian angle, the Australian sale out of a BSL-3 of the other half-weaponized strain. The only place (we know of) that the twain met, was Wuhan Virology Lab.

      It escapes, and the rest is simple person-to-person and air travel.

    2. James Woods
      Feb 28
      “The majority of Iran's cases have been linked to Qom, a major religious destination for Shiite pilgrims 85 miles south of Tehran.” It is also within thirty miles of Iran’s nuclear “research” facility, staffed by numerous scientists from mainland China.

  6. The Italians would not stop F around partying and ignored controls, so now they have Lockdown. Curfews and F you! NO travelling unless justified for work, and proven.F family days out - NO! Cars and people on the streets are now stopped by armed Police and Military. Curfew are in from today. Travel is stopped. They now face 4 weeks crack down.

    Britain will follow. We can't trust the Public they are all F in the head and half on the streets are illegals anyway. COBRA now knows we are two weeks behind Italy and it's coming fast. It's coming! No escaping it. Nor stopping it. It's everywhere.
    Tough control has to come in. Armed! New times, curtailing the Swine.Hard action, if need be slot a thousand, save 60 Million. Where is the Get Real line?
    Italy has now accepted you can't reason with the Plebs. Street low life's are loose. Until stopped. So now they have a choice,listen or a 9mm tends to get their attention. It's now one step from Martial Law. We need to limit escalation by stopping movements. Affirmative action if forced. COBRA now accepts you can't cure Stupid. We are likely to go hands on faster than Italy did. Or we kill more by prevaricating. Let's see how the US and UK infection curves go. Grease the bullets with Pig fat. That will keep the Muzzies inside. Joking!

  7. Would you put your child on a school bus if you saw Joe Biden driving?

  8. Or run him over with it and blame Obama for looking for his Birth Cert not looking at the road,?

  9. Now this : Wine was literally flowing from the faucets in this Italian village .

    The small town of Settecani in Modena, Italy, was shocked when a pinkish liquid started coming from their faucets, and a Facebook post by local authorities explained that it was not a toxic or harmful liquid—it was purely wine.

    I dont make this s*** up.

  10. Voter tells Biden he’s concerned that Biden will end 2nd amendment rights.

    Biden responds: You’re full of sh*t.

    Yeah, ok I see where they are going with this.

    Bernine Sanders takes $5,000,000.00 to walk.

    The candidate with obvious cognitive impairment runs as the democrat challenger

    Trump wins the election

    The democrats now have four more years to chill and do nothing .

  11. Reports are coming in that the President of Portugal has been found DEAD in his residence, possibly from Coronavirus.

    President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, who took office on 9 March 2016, has REPORTEDLY been found dead in his private residence. The President self-quarantined after a reported exposure to Coronavirus infected children. THIS REPORT IS, AS YET, UNCONFIRMED

  12. I keep getting in my email why am I so worried about a coronavirus that 96.6% will survive?

    My reply is U.S.-based but you can substitute in your Nation just as easy. It's been fine-tuned to bypass most objections, the science, etc. Feel free to use it.

    Please understand why nCov2019 is dangerous. It is not the 3.4% mortality though that is bad in its own right. It is not the fact that 80% will have a mild case.It is not the currently low numbers of infected and dead. It's the 20% that need hospitals to survive it. It's the geometric spread. If you do the math, if you do nothing and it goes geometric (and it will), you collapse your health system in 100 days.... That's the why of the panic. Not to mention you run out of ICU beds at 60 days and regular beds at 80 days. Then mortality will rise to 15% or more. I can't say it any more plainly.

    1. And because of the VERY long incubation period, which some are saying can be 4 weeks to 3 months, it will never end.

      I found this interesting. Billy Meier's US rep's blog had a bunch of information apparently given to Billy Meier by the Plejaran. This is what they said. They have been reporting heavily about how this will be devastating to the planet.

      As of now, the other relevant facts and protocols presented by the Plejaren are still not recognized or implemented:

      1.) Real number of infections and deaths much higher than reported
      2.) Actual incubation period up to four weeks to 3 months
      3.) Spread by asymptomatic people; through air, breath, clothing, etc.
      4.) Breathing masks useless, virus penetrates because so small
      5.) Full-body protective suit, breathing apparatus only real protection
      6.) Hermetic quarantine required, must be longer than 2 weeks
      7.) Asian races initially most susceptible but will spread to others
      8.) Virus becomes more aggressive over time, claiming more lives
      9.) Children mainly immune, main hidden spreaders of disease

      They have been reporting heavily in this...

    2. One other thing I think needs mentioning is what happens to all the children when their parents die?

      If this is a CREATED Bio-Weapon of the elite, it's diabolical. I will refer back to Epstein and then maybe you can figure out why they would have created a weapon to spare the children and kill the adults.

  13. Lifted from an email quoting I think the Guardian:

    Prince Andrew is still refusing to cooperate with a federal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged co-conspirators — despite a public pledge to do so, federal prosecutors said Monday.

    “Contrary to Prince Andrew’s very public offer to cooperate with our investigation into Epstein’s co-conspirators, an offer that was conveyed via press release, Prince Andrew has now completely shut the door on voluntary cooperation,” US Attorney for the Southern District of New York Geoffrey Berman said late Monday morning after an unrelated press conference.

    Andrew — the royal family black sheep who’s been slammed for his friendship with Epstein, and accused of raping one of Epstein’s victims — has reportedly hired Britain’s “most formidable” extradition lawyer to defend him against the federal probe.

  14. Endemic system failure to protect. We simply have no resources for the scale of it.

  15. This is from the Critical Care Management List, which is a closed circle of Critical Care Fellows. It is the ground truth, in Lombardia,from a doctor intensivist:

    From: o
    Sent: 3/9/2020 6:02:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Subject: Re: [CCM-L] All of Italy declared red zone tonight (confined). Firsdt deaths in GErmany "only" now.

    Italy seems to be shaping up as a case study of what happens when
    containment is inadequate. This just in from Jason Van Schoor on

    "From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is
    currently in northern Italy:

    1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what
    is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about
    what you should do.

    2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a
    extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and
    don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in
    a 3rd world country.

    3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not
    explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they
    are running 200% capacity

    4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and
    they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like
    trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure
    and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir

    5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even
    assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed
    and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much
    as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally

    6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front
    of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists
    are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE

    7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and
    there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same
    everywhere, this is the pattern:

    8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to
    avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
    2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube,
    but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks

    9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime
    deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then
    even O2.

    4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality
    spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.

    10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things
    that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict
    measures to keep people safe,

    11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your
    loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will
    not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean
    YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how

    12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying
    things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for
    dinner because you think you’ll be safe.

    13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I
    really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare."

  16. Thank you Tino well chosen issues and points.

    We live in a world where we have no problems funding and tooling up to kill a Million, but we can't plan or budget money to save them. Saving lives does not fund Arms Industries or Contractors, or Agencies. Where is Profit in compassion? I read the above, it's a fundamental priority. It touched me. Reflected awareness.

    Starting the redemption's, we can trade off Americas debt shortfall. We can fund Infrastructure, Education, and Health Care.

    But these are Good Things.

    We are asked to focus on US Agency bases. Not to help the living.
    A perverse direction.

    I want to create Profits to Educate.
    They want those funds to Devastate humankind. My way we save lives. Their way, they take them for Profit.

    That determines if they release,when, or not. Budget subterfuge. Our day job conflicts.
    Do we need to get Real, and Steal, not Feel?
    Compassion is not Fashion.Nor for a Soul to Ration.
    There is no compass direction to Atonement.
    But passing by, you will hear them.
    So that is the Bang for your Buck?

  17. Poor Italy has lost in the region of 160 people just today alone. It now tracks only China, but we will track behind in 3 weeks.
    It's coming.


  18. Coronavirus NY News: Gov. Cuomo orders containment zone in New Rochelle, calls in National Guard.

  19. Updated 37 minutes ago
    NEW ROCHELLE, Westchester County -- New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said he is accepting a recommendation to shut down a one-mile radius in New Rochelle, Westchester County, because of the coronavirus outbreak. He has called on the National Guard to help in the effort to curb the spread of the virus in the suburb just north of New York City.

    Cuomo describes New Rochelle as having "a particular problem" with a cluster of cases and contains a much higher number of positive cases than New York City.

    He said officials are focusing on a one-mile radius around the center of where the outbreak started and setting up a containment area between March 12 and March 25.

    Here some of the latest developments:
    NY Governor orders containment zone in New Rochelle, Westchester County

    First New Jersey death due to COVID-19 reported in Bergen County

    36 positive coronavirus cases reported in New York City

    2 school bus drivers on Long Island test positive for coronavirus

    "This is likely going to get worse before it gets better," U.S. surgeon general says

    The dramatic move is an attempt to stop people from gathering within one mile from the Young Israel of New Rochelle synagogue. Buildings in the area will also be sanitized with the help of the National Guard, which will also assist with the delivery of food.

    "It is a dramatic action, but it is the largest cluster of cases in the country," he said. "The numbers are going up unabated, and we do need a special public health strategy for New Rochelle."

    People will be permitted to enter and leave the area. The focus is "not really people, it's facilities," he said.

    New Rochelle is at the center of an outbreak of more 108 cases in Westchester County, out of 173 statewide as of Tuesday.

    The state will take the opportunity to aggressively clean the area during that two week period to reduce the spread of coronavirus.

    Schools and other "large congregate facilities for gatherings" in the containment area will be closed and sanitized.

    There will also be a satellite testing facility set up by Northwell Health to increase testing in the city of New Rochelle.

    Earlier, three students tested positive for the coronavirus forcing the East Ramapo School District in Rockland County to cancel classes for two weeks.

    They are three of five students tested and believed to be related to two adult residents, a man and woman, who learned of their exposure after working with a caterer at a New Rochelle synaogue.

    The students attend Hempstead Elementary, Pomona Middle School and Ramapo High School.

    "These schools are now considered potential exposure sites and anyone who visited the schools on the exposure dates may have been exposed to COVID-19 and must precautionary quarantine for fourteen days. This includes all faculty, staff, students, visitors and parents who spent time within the schools," County Health Commissioner Dr. Patricia Schnabel Ruppert said.

    Anyone who visited the following locations in Rockland County may have been exposed to Coronavirus (COVID-19) and must precautionary quarantine:

    Ramapo High School
    Wednesday, March 4, 2020 - Recommended closure until March 19, 2020 (Precautionary quarantine must continue until March 19, 2020.)

    Hempstead Elementary
    Friday, March 6, 2020 - Recommended closure until March 21, 2020 (Precautionary quarantine must continue until March 21, 2020.)

    Pomona Middle School
    Friday, March 6, 2020 - Recommended closure until March 21, 2020 (Precautionary quarantine must continue until March 21, 2020.)

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  21. Do you think the media is intentionally causing Corona virus FEARS for political purposes? New York Governor Andrew Cuomo , IS A DEM !

    Cuomo father was the NYS Governor as well.

    His brother Chris Cuomo is the CNN reporter.

    Gets interesting you think ?


  22. Cuomo orders 'containment area' in New Rochelle; National Guard to assist!

    How is Cuomo allowed to send in the U.S. military without President Trumps approval?

    This sets a dangerous precedent for State Governors!!! via

    1. I believe the National Guard is controlled by the state

  23. One of TRUMP developments along the WEST SIDE HIGHWAY, NYC. Trump is not the only investor, however his name WAS on many of the buildings. They were removed after he was elected.

  24. BREAKING: Massachusetts has just announced 51 *new* cases of coronavirus, bringing the total number of presumptive cases to 92 -- a 124 percent increase from yesterday. Seventy of the cases are related to the Biogen conference in Boston. Six people are hospitalized.


    Stoking fear over quarantines and supply chain disruptions has sent the stock market on a downward roller coaster ride. One of President Trump's major achievements is the roaring economy. Taking the stock market down 25% or more may help the Democrats. But by the numbers, the economy is still roaring, bolstered by the February jobs report of 273,000 added jobs, more than expected, and record-low 3.5% unemployment.

    Despite the hair-on-fire reporting of coronavirus news, let's look at some actual numbers, rather than the codswallop from CNN or MSNBC. Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Dashboard are illustrative.

    At the time of this writing, there are 107,352 cases worldwide, 3,646 deaths, and 60,558 recoveries. Fifteen of those deaths occurred in the U.S. The odds of recovering are far higher than the odds of dying.

    Cases in mainland China have peaked, with few added cases over the past week. Cases elsewhere are on the rise, following the same pattern as China in early February. Recoveries are rising at an even faster rate.

    Granted that China may be better equipped to institute mandatory quarantines and travel restrictions under their command and control government, the pattern is similar to the disease course for other viral epidemics.

    Anthony Fauci, M.D., of the National Institutes of Health and a member of the Trump administration's task force, gave some perspective in a New England Journal of Medicine editorial:

    The median age of the patients was 59 years, with higher morbidity and mortality among the elderly and among those with coexisting conditions (similar to the situation with influenza).

    The overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza.

  26. continued

    In other words, the coronavirus may be a nastier version of the seasonal flu, potentially fatal for the elderly and infirm. How many Americans die from the flu each day? Let's ask the CDC.

    Influenza and pneumonia caused 55,672 deaths in the U.S. in 2017, or 153 persons per day. As a reminder, only 15 have died from the coronavirus to date, the number dying in any four-hour period from the flu.

    Over the past decade, influenza has affected between 9.3 and 45 million persons each year, depending on the flu severity. Hospitalizations for the flu have ranged from 140,000 to 800,000 persons per year, and deaths varied between 12,000 and 61,000 each year.

    These numbers, in America only, far eclipse the number of coronavirus fatalities worldwide, about 3,600 thus far. This could and will likely change, but are the numbers worthy of the hair-on-fire reaction from cable news anchors and Democrat politicians?

    Remember the coronavirus mortality rate of 3.4% pushed by the World Health Organization, the global Deep State's health mouthpiece? President Trump said that number was too high and was excoriated by the liberal media, eagerly willing to trade a bunch of dead Americans for a Trump defeat in November.

    It turns out the president was correct. Health and Human Services assistant secretary Admiral Brett Giroir declared, "The best estimates now of the overall mortality rate for COVID-19 is somewhere between 0.1% and 1%."

    For comparison, the fatality rate for the seasonal flu is 0.1%. The coronavirus fatality rate is likely similar to the 0.1–1% figure based on confirmed cases. How many individuals have a normal cold, when in reality they have the coronavirus, and recover after a week? That would mean that far more are infected but are unreported, as their infection is a nonevent, making the fatality rate lower than reported.

    Look also at past viral illnesses, far more lethal than the coronavirus. The fatality rate for MERS and SARS was 34.4 and 9.5% respectively. Neither illness generated as much media hysteria as coronavirus.

    Swine flu, also known as H1N1, happened on Obama's watch. With over 60 million cases in the U.S., and over 12,000 deaths, where was the vitriol hurled at Obama, compared to what we are seeing directed toward Trump?

    Another number ignored by the media is the number of cases of coronavirus per capita. The U.S. rate is obviously far lower than China, South Korea, and Japan, but also lower than Italy, France, Germany, and Spain.

    President Trump's decisive actions, again contrary to media reporting, are responsible for keeping U.S. numbers down due to his travel ban.

    For additional perspective, heart disease kills 1,774 persons a day, cancer 1,641, accidents 466, and strokes 401 per day. A recent tornado in Tennessee claimed 24 lives, almost twice the number of Americans who died from the coronavirus thus far.

  27. continued

    Some other numbers offer perspective. Americans die each year from unusual causes. One hundred sixty die each year from autoerotic asphyxiation, 67 are victims of serial killers, 986 are killed by police, 75 from lawnmowers, 31 struck by lightning, and one American dies each year being trampled on Black Friday.

    I haven't heard any media angst over lawnmowers or auto-erotica. Medical errors are also far more dangerous than any viral epidemic. From 250,000 to 400,000 Americans die each year from medical errors, the third most common cause of death in the U.S. What would happen if Bernie Sanders got his wish and government were in charge of all of health care?

    Numbers are inconvenient to the media — particularly the math-challenged like MSNBC's Brian Williams and NY Times editor Mara Gay discussing Bloomberg's campaign spending, being off by a factor of a million. How can we trust these people reporting on coronavirus numbers?

    President Franklin D. Roosevelt once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." If you watch the evening news or read the daily newspaper, you will be inundated with fear. Take the constant barrage of coronavirus codswallop with a grain of salt, and keep things in perspective.

    1. Makes sense to me. TY for posting this SCOTTF.

    2. In the trade, we call this an insufficient analysis. It is missing the fact that this bug puts 20% in the hospital regardless and independently from the mortality rate. And coupled to geometric spread, it WILL crash your health system in 100 days. Incidentally, the CDC's latest estimate for deaths at the same prevalence as influenza A is over 0.5MM. That's your 1% rate to you. That's a lot of parents and grandparents. Oh, and your health system is collapsed because you didn't have 1MM simultaneous hospital beds...

      Thus, China went draconian in isolation and built 16 field hospitals in record time to deal with the surge in Wuhan/Hubei.

      Thus, the Lombard regional health system COLLAPSED at 200% utilization. We commend the Chinese in their airlift of 1000 ventilators to Italy. We commend Italy now block moving 1000 transportable patients out of the Lombard regional system to the rest of the Italy to redistribute the load even as volunteer docs pour in to help the overwhelmed Lombard system.

  28. Gpd help us....Here come the snatch and grabs. Washington State set to move to level 3 and full statewide quarantine. Being around someone who tests positive can mean that you, even if you don't test positive can be hauled away to a Fema quarantine camp.

  29. China to ship 1000 mechanical life-support ventilators to Italy!

  30. Joe Biden projected to win Michigan Democratic primary .

  31. Yesterday, New Hampshire thought it had COVID-19 temporarily "contained." Tonight, a fifth case of coronavirus has been diagnosed in the state, 220+ Granite Staters are in self-quarantine, and New Hampshire colleges and universities are strongly considering taking courses online.

  32. "Stock futures are falling after President Donald Trump failed to show at a briefing to discuss his plan to boost the economy".

    Dow Futures Are Slumping Because Fiscal Stimulus Can’t Come Soon Enough

    1. Did you have a successful result John ?

    2. Not yet, we contest it daily with increasing vehemence and have left Bankers in no doubt how it will end up for them.
      1. 2 Senior Wells parties resigned and ran last week.
      2.The old vile, blackmailing, bribing, terrorising piece of human filth Cabal Ringmaster Bush 41, is now thankfully dead. The idiot Sons are of now consequence.
      3. This week we lose time because of the Khazar / Jewish Cult religious holidays.
      4. We do face possible oncoming issues with Coronovirus chaos.
      5. With Bush.Cheney and Baker we knew the Cabal grouping. Post Bush its now chaos, but left to Baker, Cheney. Hayden, Greenspan and Zio filth cross manipulating.
      6. Left with one of the least intelligent US Presidents in history,a man whose got no experience of Diplomacy, Zero experience of the Political apparatus,no Industrial, High Finance, Legal(apart from Defending his repeating bad judgment Bankruptcies) Military, or visible organisational skills. A nan owned by the Jewish Mafia, surrounded by them in the WH,he's not an asset who could even understand any of it, let alone be of use. With so many Srs leaving complaining he's as thick as a Plank,it's sadly now an area of no use to us. So, we fight the various areas of the Cabal alone,as it fragments, and comes apart under daily attacks.
      8 years of the Criminal usurper Soetoro did not help. During that time Crime Lord Bush 41 still had control. Since it's been Trump, Clueless and chaos.But, as it all unravels now we are getting there. Bankers seeing what is coming for them in situe,are resigning and running fast. We still have to fight the corrupt Zio Treasury and Fed Jewish Mafia, but pre Coronovirus progress had been made. Corruption is now under attack. How far dare Barr push it? The whole system from the top down, is rotten to the core. A maggot infested can of worms we fight daily. It's all on the line. 24x 7 it's ongoing. Funding, fighting and positioning. But, under the clueless incumbent,we have opportunities as the Cabal has lost its Bush,Clinton,Soetoro shields, leaving us able to attack as is happening. The question is how far will Barr face it, and them, down? Or- as with all- What is his price?

      Next week, they face real issues, head on. Two just ran.

    3. John, for the past two days they have been rocking and rolling all night long. I hear them . MOST Americans do not know that to the Jews they are Goyims.

    4. Or how its their cultural training,brainwashed from children, to despise, abuse, and manipulate the Goyims, who are the no value Slaves of the Master Race? Gods chosen people, who left them with so many interbreeding Genetic faults and for so, so many , so unbelievably F ugly! Eyes like pissoles in the snow,and a face you can type cast on sight. In any collapse of society, if stopped by any armed gangs they are gone.
      But those that do know them, for what the are, know how to deal with them. Russia for example. The Gulags await.

      Throw in a Stink Bomb! Or two, or three!

  33. Replies
    1. Hmm,. at least, without a brain, it won't be damaged.

  34. In other news I was very happy to see President Trump talk about rolling back the payroll taxes until the end of the year and perhaps beyond. We all know the IRS is a deep state creation.

    It's funny, it's almost like I heard that this would one day happen. Perhaps President Trump is using Rahm Emanuels playbook- "never let a crisis go to waste".

  35. Let the show begin !

    Biden seizes control of Democratic presidential race with big primary wins over Sanders

    Rob Reiner calls Biden “Compassionate” .. Joy Reid says Biden telling a union worker he’s “full of Sh!t” displayed “Composed Forcefulness” !

    They have no idea what’s coming !

  36. In addition the Italian government has suspended!
    IRS offices closed due to this virus panic
    Happenstance doesn't work in this world

    1. G-Man I saw that this morning. I wonder if we'll see this elsewhere too? I do know, that we got a note in our monthly statement telling their borrowers to let them know if they have been affected by the Coronavirus... arrangements are available.

  37. The next 3 months will reshape commerce.

    How about we reach out to our Fellow Men and Women, and help each other. One nation of Man Kind where you all matter? Real values?

  38. So I spoke with a relative of mine that lives in IL. Apparently, in one town, there was one confirmed case of the Coronavirus. The entire school district shut down the schools. I can understand the school, but why shut down a school 15 miles away? An abundance of caution or hysteria?

    The individual had no contact with anyone from the other schools in the district.

  39. John

    Anything on the FL currencies and bonds?


    1. With the Jewish Mafia on holidays this week it goes into next week. This is what happens when an idiot President hands over the Treasury and Fed to the worst low life scum on the planet and you still won't take a blow torch to these Roaches.

    2. Steve Munchin is drowning along with a sewer rat. You can only save one... Would you save Mnuchin or the rat?

    3. John,

      Wouldn't the market decline as a result of two black swan events (corona virus, oil war) be a catalyst for the release of funds? I would think the injection of liquidity of the PPs would be an immediate remedy to preventing 2008 from happening all over again. Instead are they willing to let the world burn in lieu of the obvious?

      Or am I just that naïve?

    4. All or nothing. I would do the right thing,
      And drown both!

    5. Ab Irato
      We have a President who's semi literate,Zios beyond the Law, and Bankers under such pressure no resigning and running with stolen funds. 2 corrupt Houses,and Justice at a price.
      Not easy is it?

  40. IRS to extent Ap[ril 15th tax deadline

    IRS and payroll taxes are soon to be a way to long nightmare

  41. Oh boy...You know, I really didn't want to write this here, but to me at least it is so disturbing I will "just go for it" and hope there is an explanation.

    Before I begin I never listened to the "gurus". But I have seen a lot of talk on here about how they were doing nothing but profiting from the bullcrap they peddle.

    This morning, I was struck that the White Hats not only have merch that you can buy, but you can subscribe to their Patreon Channel where there are 6 membership levels.

    So, before I judge weren't we told that this site and the White Hat site doesn't want our money?

    Asking for clarification, because they way it stands without explanation it doesn't look good from this end.

    1. Another thing, are the White Hats going to provide their reports for free? I mean, isn't the whole purpose of White Hats to inform and educate? Surely there shouldn't be a fee to pay for important information?

      I know I sound critical.. but seriously we have been waiting for Part 2 of 48 and now you have to pay to read it?!

      I have to be missing something.

    2. Hi Arizona,

      Consider the time duration of this fight. I've already pledged $25 month. If I was a millionaire I would drop $100K on them.

      I suspect it was a hard decision.

    3. My advice...set it up as a non-profit so we can get a write off.


    4. Arizona,

      Let me clarify OWON's positioning as I am the only one who can.

      1) OWON is not an extension of the White Hats. It is a separate entity. Our circles may cross over and we are supportive of each other, but we are not a parent, nor a subsidiary.

      2) I pledged long ago shortly after its inception that the OWON website was to be free to everyone, forever. That also meant that not even adverts would appear on the website. However I have considered allowing adverts on OWON's YouTube channel to help cover costs, but I have yet to do even that.

      3) I have considered opening a store on the website with all monies going directly to the White Hats Media Group to support their efforts. That is an optional purchase and has zero effect on OWON one way or the other.

      As for the White Hats, did you watch their update video? If not, here is a link:

      UPDATE: Welcome, Website, Store, Patreon and more....

      After watching that are you still of the same opinion?

      Who said you would have to pay to see WHR #48 episode 2? Better to ask for clarification before jumping to such conclusions. No one will have to pay to see any of WHR #48. Or any other report for that matter, video or text report. Granted, patrons will get some perks, deservedly so. But have you bothered to see the their actual Patreon page? See what it says. If not here is a link:

      White Hats Media Group Patreon page

      Does it say anywhere that all Reports will be behind a pay wall?

      Comparing WHR to "gurus"? After all these years this is what they are compared to?

      I know I sound like an asshole, but I do not mean to. I just get very frustrated when insinuations and/or accusations are thrown around without first asking a simple question or two. Statements made without merit.

      You want to ask the White Hats directly? Here is a link to their Discord "Welcome" channel:

      White Hats Media Group Discord Welcome Channel

      That Discord channel is also FREE!

      I understand where WHMG/WHR are coming from. I pay for all things OWON. I help anyone who asks for it free of charge. I ask very little in return, simply follow our TOS.

      You have to consider the time, effort and money put in. They are simply asking for help to allow them the ability to get things out in a more timely fashion. We all have day jobs and we take care of OWON or WHMG in spare time. Think that through. I am not wealthy, I work each day to keep the bill collectors at bay, much like most of you all. If I were to ask for help, I hope I don't get thrown under the bus.

    5. Hi Canauzzie I asked for clarification. I don't know how no one could imiss this in my comments which I have copied and pasted.

      Asking for clarification, because they way it stands without explanation it doesn't look good from this end.

      Read more at:
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    6. Pulling one sentence out of your comment and the immediate addendum to it?

      Read it whole, not parts, and responded in kind.

  42. Arizona

    1. I do provide help, support and contributions to the WH reports. Free!
    2. Paladin clearly has issues with costs. I understand, but he will not get a Public commitment to pay. There are too many trying that game.
    3.I will help on part 2 and we have talked about it. It will be raised with him. It's a huge Time and Cost burden, I know, first hand.

    A discussion will start. You all matter. Thank you.

    1. Got it John. That's all it took. I like Paladin, so I hope he isn't offended by my comments. Glad to hear you're involved.

      Stay well!

    2. Have you any idea how I greet Paladin tongue in cheek, think of the worst of Danny di Vito loose. Don't worry about offending him- THAT'S MY JOB! Daily!

  43. I'm so happy Weinstein just got 23 years. No women EVER should be treated like that. Never! His Attorneys are now blasting the Judge.
    1. Jail the Attorneys for contempt of court. A disgusting attack.
    2. Offer them John as Judge. He would castrate him, give him a red hot anal poker, ensure he is given a Circumcision reversal using a Pigs bladder as foreskin to lock it down with barbed wire and an Industrial Stapler. No man who treats women like this deserves any sympathy. Zio Khazars and Ragheads. Same scum.
    3.Contract him to Putin in a Siberian Gulag for medical experiments. His Attorneys with him. Bag the lot!

  44. WHO declares a world pandemic
    India starts to shut down, suspends tourist visas
    This and all other events posted here over the past few days seems to indicate a sore subject for the admin of this sight
    So I'll just let the "on the ball" folks here fill in the missing term...acronym

    1. So true g man I've all ways said there agents are everywhere read into that what you will

  45. I belong to an area/neighborhood blog. There are about 5,000 residents. Today, the following reality of the effects of the Corona Virus, as shared, will astound you. Take heed!

    Corona Virus Realities
    Many of us have real concerns about the novel Coronavirus and others feel we are way overreacting. For weeks I have been following all kinds of news— some mainstream and some not so mainstream. Its not about getting sick (at least if you are under 60 and healthy), but it is about supply chains and the economic effect we are feeling already, and what exponential growth of this illness can result in. It is about the need to prepare. Our government often tells us bit by bit what they deem we can handle. I am posting this not to cause panic, but to communicate how necessary I believe it is to take this seriously. My son attended Carnegie Mellon graduate school and has a connection to a fellow grad who lives in Italy. This person wrote the below message. If you weren’t concerned before, or if your favorite news station has not told you all the facts, read this:

    I am writing to you from Bergamo, Italy, at the heart of the coronavirus crisis. The news media in the US has not captured the severity of what is happening here.

  46. cont.
    I am writing this post because each of you, today, not the government, not the school district, not the mayor, each individual citizen has the chance, today to take actions that will deter the Italian situation from becoming your own country’s reality. The only way to stop this virus is to limit contagion. And the only way to limit contagion is for millions of people to change their behavior today.

  47. cont.
    If you are in Europe or the US you are weeks away from where we are today in Italy.

    I can hear you now. “It’s just a flu. It only affects old people with preconditions”

    There are 2 reasons why Coronavirus has brought Italy to it’s knees. First it is a flu is devastating when people get really sick they need weeks of ICU – and, second, because of how fast and effectively it spreads. There is 2 week incubation period and many who have it never show symptoms.

    When Prime Minister Conte announced last night that the entire country, 60 million people, would go on lock down, the line that struck me most was “there is no more time.” Because to be clear, this national lock down, is a hail mary. What he means is that if the numbers of contagion do not start to go down, the system, Italy, will collapse.

  48. cont.
    Why? Today the ICUs in Lombardy are at capacity – more than capacity. They have begun to put ICU units in the hallways. If the numbers do not go down, the growth rate of contagion tells us that there will be thousands of people who in a matter of a week? two weeks? who will need care. What will happen when there are 100, or a 1000 people who need the hospital and only a few ICU places left?

    On Monday a doctor wrote in the paper that they have begun to have to decide who lives and who dies when the patients show up in the emergency room, like what is done in war. This will only get worse.

    There are a finite number of drs, nurses, medical staff and they are getting the virus. They have also been working non-stop, non-stop for days and days. What happens when the drs, nurses and medical staff are simply not able to care for the patients, when they are not there?

  49. cont.
    And finally for those who say that this is just something that happens to old people, starting yesterday the hospitals are reporting that younger and younger patients – 40, 45, 18, are coming in for treatment.

    You have a chance to make a difference and stop the spread in your country. Push for the entire office to work at home today, cancel birthday parties, and other gatherings, stay home as much as you can. If you have a fever, any fever, stay home. Push for school closures, now. Anything you can do to stop the spread, because it is spreading in your communities – there is a two week incubation period – and if you do these things now you can buy your medical system time.

    And for those who say it is not possible to close the schools, and do all these other things, locking down Italy was beyond anyone’s imagination a week ago.

    Soon you will not have a choice, so do what you can now.

    Please share.


  50. When will coronavirus Covid-19 trigger the World Bank's pandemic bond?

    In 2017 the World Bank issued a pandemic bond designed to help fund the response to any widespread outbreak of a number of diseases, including coronavirus. The $320 million bond was part of a bigger $425 million risk transfer that included a concurrent $105 million swap with six reinsurance counterparties. Should it already be paying out? As of March 11, the answer was no, principally because the required time period has not yet elapsed since the start of the outbreak, which is 12 weeks. The World Bank confirmed to Euromoney on March 5 that the official start of the outbreak has been set at December 31, 2019, meaning that the first day following the 12-week period will be March 24. Contrary to rumours circulating online, there is no requirement for a body like the World Bank or the World Health Organisation to formally declare that the outbreak is a pandemic for the bonds to pay out. When the criteria are met, the bonds will be triggered, whether or not a pandemic has been declared. Some of the other criteria have been met, but two - the growth rate of cases and the ratio of confirmed cases to total cases (including suspected) - can only be calculated once all others are met, and are determined during an additional period of up to two weeks. This means that although March 24 marks the end of the 12-week period since the start of the outbreak, the growth rate and confirmation ratio data that relate to that day would not be known until April 6. Two days is then set aside for calculation of those rates. Euromoney understands that the earliest date on which it would be known if all bond trigger conditions have been met is April 9. If the scheme does pay out, it will do so only to a very targeted group of countries – the poorest in the world, which are also those with the weakest healthcare systems and likely to be the slowest to begin to report accurate assessments of an outbreak. Structuring the pandemic bond, as Euromoney reported in depth at the time, was immensely complicated, not least because it needed to strike a balance between being useful and being investible. The bond will mature on July 15, although it can be extended by one year. The World Bank is preparing a second iteration of the scheme, dubbed Pandemic Emergency Facility (PEF) 2.0, which the Bank said last year was to be marketed in May 2020. Some of the triggers depend on cases of disease reported by developing countries – those that fall within the World Bank's lending categories of IBRD (International Bank for Reconstruction and Development) or IDA (International Development Association). Among the parameters governing whether or not the bond is triggered, and how much it pays out if it is, are: the number of countries affected; the number of cases in each of those countries; the number of deaths; the percentage of confirmed cases to total cases, including suspected; and the growth rate of cases. All of these will be assessed based on specific reporting periods. The conditions to trigger the bond need to be in place at least 12 weeks after the designated start of the event for payouts to happen. After that, they must be in place on a rolling 12-week basis.

    read more here

  51. Italy deaths are rising fast. Chicago has cancelled the St Patrick's Day parade. Dam sure!

    Stay safe everywhere. Do NOT go to large gatherings now. It's nasty! It's lurking and it's HERE!

    1. Hey John I always thought you and the BSD'S were located in London. After reading some of your posts, it sounds like you are here in the United States.

    2. Your our Looney Tunes Pond Cousins

    3. I'll agree with that but let's be honest, the apple doesnt fall to far from the tree.

    4. And we bit into it a long time ago. Then came back for seconds

  52. Went to Sam's this am... sold out of TP... WVU no classes after spring break, shutdown... no cases of Corona in WV yet but we are surrounded... hitting home!... DOW!... gonna be real next few months looks like!... crazy!

  53. More good news....

    A White House official says President Trump is considering issuing a disaster declaration for the entire United States under the Stafford Act. No decision yet but this would free up a lot of funding and put "FEMA" fully in the fight against the virus.

  54. Reports are CLAIMING that all U.S. Schools will be shut down next week. This is as yet UNCONFIRMED.

    I can confirm that a major chain was briefed by the government that all schools in the US would be closed by mid-April. 30% of the population will now have to stay home to watch their young children. Imagine the economic ramifications. Add to that, China producing 80% of the pharmaceuticals. The 50% of the population that is drug dependent is about to go loony loco!







  56. The deaths from SARS, MERS and Swine Flu were much, much worse, but we never saw a reaction in MSM like we are witnessing with this one. Why are they promoting it like its the black plague? Martial Law & FEMA camps is my best guess and they take out China as a bonus?

    Or, another line of thinking: Who profits most from this? Big-pharma?

  57. Arizona,

    I'm a bit disappointed to see your comment here regarding our decision to monetize so let me attempt to explain the situation.

    At this point, we've released 67 reports all free of charge. How many people and how much time do you think said people spent to get those reports out? And the amount of time spent GETTING the information, documents, etc. and associated time investigating and researching. It would be interesting to contact an attorney or private investigator and ask them how much they would charge to get COPIES of three SWIFTS for $5 Trillion each that were sent back in 2009 by the Federal Reserve. And make sure you also get a quote for supporting documents we released as it relates to the banks involved (JP Morgan, HSBC, etc).

    Next get a quote for the underlying documents relating to the fraudulent gold that was used to offset the $15 T. I seriously doubt if they could obtain them. Next, get a quote for obtaining ORIGINAL documents pertaining to a Federal Reserve trading program contract. Signed by all the parties. And...underlying documents that support the transaction. Ditto here with their chances of obtaining these documents.

    Next, get a quote on a contract between the US government, signed by the President, Vice President, Fed Chairman and other parties for quadrillions of dollars. Ditto. And these are just three examples of documents we've released as we hold many, many more.

    The out of pocket costs are minimal but still exist as we pay for multiple URLs, a hosting service and software programs.

    And lastly and probably most least for the risk to our lives and/or freedom. Not really sure how you put a price on that but obviously its not very high in your opinion.

    Perhaps you didn't listen to what I said on the video and instead were distracted by the fact that we're going to monetize our platform because we still have bills to pay and to grow the effort we'll need to compensate people for their time.

    If you feel our reports and information included has no value and our attempt to monetize "doesn't look good from this end" then I suggest you don't visit the site, don't watch our videos and don't participate in any way with a movement trying to SAVE this country...and maybe the rest of the planet by exposing the criminals who run it.

    The people who value those efforts will support us and the people who don't, won't. If you're employed or have your own business, I hope the people who pay you for your time, knowledge and experience value it more than you value ours.

    1. I can respond in one of two ways. I will use my better judgement and just say that your response spoke volumes.

    2. Paladin,
      Congratulations on moving to new level of ACTION....with you 100%...or “unobtainium”...LOL

      You’re so correct. There is no. free. lunch. Now we just need to better define what we’re going to use as “money.” As a long time real estate broker, I found over the years very few people understood credit/debit closing statements. The “IOU” debt notes are going to be the same exercise to explain to everyone so they truly understand the ongoing fraud over decades/centuries!

    3. Arizona

      You brought this up, don't stop now. If you think our time and results of our efforts aren't worth anything, just say need to be shy about it now. We'd like to expand our efforts in a big way and we can't do that without funding. If you have a better solution, offer it up.

    4. Because you are a White Hat, I would have thought you could comprehend the words.. Asking for clarification, Full stop

      and the sentence goes on... because they way it stands without explanation it doesn't look good from this end.

      John then answered, and I said fair enough. Actually, I said I liked you, which honestly after your repeated posts is changing. Perhaps you should read the entire conversation with JOHN before attacking me.

      OH and by the way? I still stand by my initial assessment more now than ever. Why? Your posts and comments directed at me are unacceptable for asking a question. Go bully someone else. I'm done

      "helping the world" while attacking those that ask for clarification- nice "white hat"


      Read more at:
      OWoN © All Rights Reserved

    5. One last thing Paladin.. don't think you can put words or context into my request for clarification.

      John has REPEATEDLY told us not to give money for information. He often boasted how the information was free. Things have changed, instead of attacking me, and I am absolutely certain that others that read this blog but won't post for fear of retaliation from you had/have the same question.. what changed? But I digress.

    6. Paladin is facing the real world of costs and the stress of supporting a very dangerous market. He must do what works for him. He's asking for contributions to meet his costs.
      We are not charging but it's a tough call for parties trying to operate alone.

    7. Arizona, please re-read Canauzzie's post and Paladin's above very carefully. You will not have to pay to read the WHs' posts. Think of the merchandise sales as a kind of crowdfunding. Without it, where will the money come from to do the research and present it?

      Many blogs have a monthly fee to read and comment. Netflix has a monthly fee. Concerts and sports events sell pricey tickets. Shouldn't they all be free? Maybe you favor socialist principles but most, if not all of us here believe in a free market.

    8. John, I thought I made it clear we were all good? When you explained it the other day, I said "fair enough" and thought it was the end. Now we have other posters other than you, Canauzzie and Paladin addressing me which is not acceptable in my book.

    9. Nigel.. I didn't see you speak at all about the topic at hand which is the coronavirus, financial markets, but instead you just you couldn't help yourself from jumping into a topic that you were not invited to. This is not open season on Arizona. Move along I won't feed into your need for drama

      And as far as socialist principles.. yeah.. NO. .

    10. Arizona

      I asked a series of questions which you've failed to address. The purpose was to get you to THINK about what we've already put out there in terms of information. Its become apparent that you have no idea how significant the information is so to expect you to consider it valuable is a useless exercise.

      As for John, he doesn't speak for the White Hats and your initial post was directed at me. You seem to think this is some free TV made for movie you're watching with no real world consequences for the creators of your FREE entertainment. Maybe you should get off your ass and contribute something positive to the effort rather than criticize the ones who are on the front lines trying to change things for the better.

      As for the rest of the readers here, this is a public forum and they are free to come in and engage with this subject if they wish. You seem to feel this is a private conversation between you and me. I'd be open to that if you wish to pursue it.


    11. Arizona,

      You are playing this like you are the victim. You are not. Anyone who reads your initial comments, not the one sentence you keep promoting, will see you were the aggressor.

      These responses are for everyone to read cause your original comment is misleading with innuendos and unfounded statements.

      Reap what you sow, stop trying to play the victim.

      Why do you drag John into this? He does not make decisions for the White Hats, nor does he have the final say for OWON.

    12. ARIZONA,

      Nobody needs "permission" to reply within a thread. I choose to point that out, yet refuse to join your NON-ISSUE threads, because simply put they are just that. A NON-ISSUE.

  58. COVID-19 has these Congressmen so jittery that their hands are in their own pockets this week.

  59. No one is immune from infection. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson are in Australia and have both tested positive.

  60. Hanks has been full of himself for so long the virus has taken a free ride to feed on the crap he's full of.

    1. Hanks was named in the Weinstein laptop NYC police reviewed as they all barfed reading the descriptions of their evil depravities, as were many known household names from the cesspool named Hollywood.

  61. Trump has now banned a travel to Europe apart from the UK . Time we banned the Buggers also. Put some manners on them.

  62. There have been moves with yet another nation bringing it's Bonds and Capital into the US Consortium seeking to get the partial RV started. No date yet for conversion but tracking.
    All other issues delayed with pandemic confusion..

    1. John

      Will the virus hasten or stall the no DS and currencies?

      Can you share a nit5more about the consortium?


    2. Damn auto corrections.... sorry about that readers


      Will the virus hasten or stall the bonds and currencies?

      Can you share a bit more about the consortium?


    3. With no singular Linear authority, and so many convoluted Roaches feeding from the trough,it needs a collective consensus to release. 'Tricky. The confusion now with Coronovirus is complicating closures.
      Lining up 50 Roaches for Public hanging,would fast track releases.

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  63. After this pandemic watch while new economic trade block changes. China will be knocked back 10 years.
    Technology will force a rethink of unreal US Military waste spending and this Virus outbreak could fast track major new border controls

    Expect the UK + US link to get ever stronger and Londons pre Eminence as Bankers to the world to grow. The world will shape shift into Hemispheres . A rethink of everything.

  64. The Dow plunged into a bear market in just 20 days — the fastest 20% plunge in history.

  65. Crazy @jimcramer just advocated live on @CNBC that the Federal Government suspend all taxation and just "print the darn money." A new low for economic thinking from the network that claims to be number 1 in finance!

    John would this an appropriate reason for the PPs to be released ?

    1. The Off Balance Sheet Debts are in Quad T's Multi Quad Ts so what a few T's to kick start need?

  66. Here’s Kellyanne Conway claiming that the coronavirus is being contained. ( A Trump assistant )
    This woman lies like a rug. NOT A GOOD LOOK AT ALL !
    This woman makes Trump re-election difficult.
    Trump needs to put a cap on her mouth.


  68. Darkness falls across the land
    The midnight hour is close at hand
    Creatures crawl in search of blood
    To terrorize y'all's neighborhood
    And whomsoever shall be found
    Without the soul for getting down
    Must stand and face the hounds of hell
    And rot inside a corpse's shell

  69. This virus apparently can't survive at over 27 Degrees,so hot water and washing kills it. Plus hot drinks to kill mouth infection.
    Then- Pray hard.

    1. Wish it were so! Heat lability of coronaviruses is roughly 56 degrees C...

      Quote:"The results showed that SARS coronavirus in the testing condition could survive in serum, 1:20 diluted sputum and feces for at least 96 h, whereas it could remain alive in urine for at least 72 h with a low level of infectivity. The survival abilities on the surfaces of eight different materials and in water were quite comparable, revealing reduction of infectivity after 72 to 96 h exposure. Viruses stayed stable at 4 degrees C, at room temperature (20 degrees C) and at 37 degrees C for at least 2 h without remarkable change in the infectious ability in cells, but were converted to be non-infectious after 90-, 60- and 30-min exposure at 56 degrees C, at 67 degrees C and at 75 degrees C, respectively." -Biomed Environ Sci. 2003 Sep;16(3):246-55. Stability of SARS coronavirus

    2. Tino, thank you so much for sharing this information.

      We have an in home infrared sauna that goes to 125-130 degrees fahrenheit. Would that be enough to kill the virus if it gets in our bodies? Thank you for your constant and appreciated information that you share here.

    3. No. You would induce hyperthermia (bad, bad , bad) long before the virus would die. While the sauna is hot enough (air temp) your body temp cannot follow suit.

    4. Thank you for the quick reply Tino. I asked because I'm hearing the Virus dies over roughly 80 degrees F. Since our bodies are a bit over 98 degrees F, that must not be the case INSIDE our bodies, just outside, correct? If that is correct, would you take a moment to explain why it is able to live in the body?

    5. 98.6F is 37C .A good fever is 43C, a dangerous brain damaging fever is 45C. To kill the virus you would need a fever of 56C. Plus you are a mammal. Your body will do all it cans to stay at 98.6F/37C no matter the outside temp.

  70. The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the UK has jumped to 590. Two more people have died bringing the total number of fatalities to 10.

  71. Why is the media not talking about Obama, Bush, and Clinton selling out America to globalism?

    Because Trump has been screaming about our idiotic reliance on China for DECADES.

    He was right.

    They were wrong.

  72. Wanted to share...

    This morning my husband was listening to the idiots on CNBC talk about the "markets". Then they switched to the politicians pointing the finger at each other and blaming the other party for all that is wrong.

    The following is what I shared with my very large contact base and yes, you are welcome to share it with yours!




  73. FRIDAY THE 13th LOOMS....
    The foulest stench is in the air
    The funk of forty thousand years
    And grisly ghouls from every tomb
    Are closing in to seal your doom
    And though you fight to stay alive
    Your body starts to shiver
    For no mere mortal can resist
    The evil of the thriller
    aha HA HA HA !!

  74. Fed just pumped the banking system with $4trillion. Includes shadow banking

  75. Senate will cancel next week's recess as Congress works to pass coronavirus response plan.

  76. By Chuck Ross

    Coronavirus, which has caused more than 4,500 deaths across the globe, can remain viable in the air for up to three hours, and on plastic and stainless steel for up to three days, according to a study conducted by a team of U.S. government researchers released Wednesday.

    The lead author of the study cautioned that the findings do not prove that coronavirus can be transmitted through the air, only that it is “theoretically possible.”

    “We’re not by any way saying there is aerosolized transmission of the virus,” Neeltje van Doremalen, a scientist at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, told The Associated Press.
    (Article Continues Below Advertisement)

    The virus, referred to as both COVID-19 and HCoV-19, is being transmitted rapidly in some way, either through person-to-person contact, or through particles in the air or on surfaces. U.S. health experts have urged the public to take precautions to avoid becoming infected and transmitting coronavirus. Frequent hand-washing, avoiding handshakes, and large crowds in certain areas is recommended.

    As of Wednesday, more than 120,000 people across the globe — as well as 1,100 Americans — tested positive for the virus. Thirty-three people have died in the U.S., and more than 4,500 in all. The number of cases in the U.S. has more than tripled since March 6.

    The patients who succumb to the virus tend to be older or have underlying health conditions.

    As part of the study, scientists dispensed coronavirus through a nebulizer into a device that recreated an open-air environment. Coronavirus particles were also put onto a variety of surfaces common in homes and hospitals, including cardboard, plastic, stainless steel and copper.

    Researchers found that coronavirus remained viable for the longest on plastic and stainless steel.

    “We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel,” the study says.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and a member of the White House coronavirus task force, told Congress on Wednesday that the situation in the U.S. is “going to get worse” with respect to the virus. He said that the virus has spread to far to contain, and that the public has to take mitigation steps, such as improving personal hygiene and avoiding large crowds.

  77. Italy's death toll has just passed 1016 and rising.
    The UK and US will follow.

  78. The UK now believes 10,000 probably already have the virus and rising.
    Yet still no real crackdown. Woosie Johnson!

  79. The corona virus in the u.s.....will they force us to stay in our homes even if we don’t have it? ...and if so for how long? I ask because I really need to get prepared for this I’m in Cleveland Ohio and it’s very close at this point. Thanks peace and blessings.

  80. Italy
    Coronavirus Cases:

  81. Costco Phoenix (PV location) - Just heard from a colleague of mine whose husband is there right is being ransacked...line wrapped around the building... fights breaking out over chicken broth... most of frozen food low/gone...all canned goods gone... Everybody knows now... Time is up!!

  82. John

    Dow now at 21,360....

    Anything you can share on when the consensus makers might be happy enough to release?

    Any other economic indicators we should watch?


  83. Replies
    1. john

      when will the asset bk'd system be announced?


    2. We lost another week because a bunch of Kazarian Gypsies Dogs are timewasting with Judaic fables on holidays. Religious fables for Mongol Tribal Plains Marauding scum now settled in and controlling America and Israel. Not a Jew among them . Khazars are not Jews!

  84. Global stocks, past 24 hours.

    Italy: -16.6%
    Brazil: -14.7%
    Spain: -14.6%
    Canada: -12%
    France: -12%
    Germany: -12%
    UK: -10.9%
    US (Dow): -10%
    Russia: -8.2%
    India: -8.2%
    Australia: -7.3%
    Turkey: -7.2%
    Indonesia: -5%
    Japan: -4.4%
    S Korea: -3.8%
    HK: -3.6%
    Saudi: -3%
    China: -1.5%

  85. Biden: 'I'll Survive The Coronavirus Just Like I Survived The Black Death'

  86. BREAKING: A federal judge has ordered the release of Chelsea Manning: "the court finds Ms. Manning's appearance before the Grand Jury is no longer needed, in light of which her detention no longer serves any coercive purpose."

    1. A Judge ordered the release of Leo Wants funds. Still waiting
      The Pentagon and Agencies have issues allowing the likes of Manning to betray the system and walk free. Manning us an itch they may scratch

  87. 33 reasons why the coronavirus is a hoax, The Illuminati Agenda of Depopulation

    put coronavirus 33 into any search engine see what comes up

    1. Egypt is the only country with any coronavirus deaths - ONE!! Yet, Gates is there giving speeches saying 10M Africans could die from this....

    2. Iran: ‘Zionists Developed the Coronavirus’

    3. Africa is interesting. There is a real possibility that this might be a non-issue in Africa due to the race-targeting aspect. On a purely statistical basis it should be crawling with the virus but it's not.

    4. Only because no one is testing or cares. It's crawling with HIV and STDs

  88. ‘Buy American’ — White House Confirms Executive Order That Will End Medical Supply Chain Reliance On China.

    1. Fantastic. An American Gold Rush that might actually help millions of U.S. citizens.

    2. Or mass producing long life food fast and supplying to stores and outdoor markets to cope with the Bums rush the cannon fodder are stripping stores empty in the UK as the mass low life's get fight entangled fighting for cans and toilet rolls. Madness. Bottom feeding lunatics at large getting in fast. I suggested to a Store Head yesterday to mark prices up 20% fast profit from the morons greed and drop prices in months when it stabilizes. Locust swarms
      Mindless. Has it hit America yet?, Maybe it's time to start military unit riot training so at least we can mass reduce this crap when opportunists come. We have millions of them who came in and bred. A real mess. Scavengers. Low education, high into crime. A dollar bullet saves a fortune in Welfare costs. Maybe it's time to put Troops on head count bonuses if it errupts. Opportunity to reduce the great unwanted. Or they just keep breeding and digging us deeper in the hole. Each Muzzie or Pakkie here has ,,4 wives each throwing out ,,8 kids all on welfare. ,37 of the Buggers draining us dry for each unit and we have to house and educate them. To do what mug and run drugs? That's where ours end up. A dollar saves 30 more.
      What's coming down when stores run dry and looting starts?
      Societies gone soft. Time to look at herd sizes. We cull animals. What's the policy for useless bred only for crime or welfare fodder? Fiat mongrels? How long can that go on?

  89. JOHN,

    Does "partial RV"(from your update above) mean big boys can cash out at new rate but Jane/Joe Public cannot? Thanks you for ALL your efforts in this long haul. What 7 years solid? 24/7 on calls flying around, driving, calls all hours....How do you do it? Whew... Wait, do you find time to go to the gym regularly, too?

    1. He also attested to making time to conduct symphonies, believe it or not.

    2. Tim
      Sadly no to the Gym but needed however a firm believer in female work outs
      Yes the major RVs may start selectively without the public but that crap handed bank profiteering will only cause chaos with the nationals and force a resolution for the public.
      Now Iraq has settling democracy, if the US with advance weaponry just atomizes these terrorist units still in Iraq, the country could monetize this year. Then they have to do the Dong and Zim.
      Huge pressures on now to remonetize Iraq and Vietnam. Zimbabwe needs to be swept up along the way
      It's also been way more than 7 years. The biggest long haul. Ever! Apart from raghead Moses and his tribes of Gypsies Dogs list going around in circles for 40 years with no Sat Nov to descend like locusts on poor nations along the way. Now they use education to subordinate each nation. Still the same locust swarms in suits .

  90. Coronovirus will bankrupt vastly more people than it kills.

  91. Rome is closing all Catholic churches to halt the virus. Permanently would be good to make the Plebs think for themselves.


    A new Dinar update for you all. Looks hopeful now. Dongs and Zims would follow.

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  94. The financial consequences of this virus have yet to be understood. Airlines, hotels, alcohol suppliers, and loss of income which may force many into bankruptcy. Be sure if one thing, these gut rotten Tax parasites will be merciless with demands as though this rodent species has any real right.
    So many jobs are under threat and families at risk. The next 4 weeks will probably see how big it's going to be.

    We need to stop large gatherings for 3 months and Leaders are too inept to call it. Sporting stadiums will face dreadful liquidity problems bit what's the price of so many lives.
    China can not yet contemplate the costs in trade and future contracts. All nations have to rethink home economies now.

    1. Yea, rethink. Debt forgiveness, eliminate all forms of debt slavery. Gut the fed, irs, income tax. Just a start

    2. I am front lining not just this, but reviewing Tax Havens and sequestrating every evaded dollar back then putting all this to work rebuilding economies.
      I want to see all trading platforms slammed under our control, no Pension Fund margin skim offs, ever profit and not a single Zio or like type in any of our trading banks. We need a crack down and rigorous ethical enforcement. Every dollar and every participant needs to show with strict licensing applied.

  95. All the rumours are that Hillary will run with Romney as VP.

    1. Can't we just indict her and blow the lid of Romney's lies on the origin of his wealth?

    2. We gave Justice evidence Tino but with Barr maybe there's a chance IF he's batting for integrity not covering for the Cabal..

  96. Trump to declare National Emergency this afternoon. The FEMA takeover has begun.

    1. Isn't this like 20th or something National Emergency Executive Order? I'm inquiring, not challenging. What's special about this one?

    2. With the new Vetting process and Background Checks indicated how can Congress and the Senate pass any of them?

  97. The UK has just stopped all sports meetings for months. Spain and the Med countries who live from Tourism are dying. British Airways can't take this.
    Our companies are reviewing Asian suppliers and a Billion Asians jobs will feel what's coming.
    This will change the balance of power but we have to get these Zio skip rats under control. America and England have to lead this now.

  98. Europe is now the epicenter of this virus. Numbers are climbing in thousands deaths behind.

    China has no understanding of payback. All our major corporates are re examining Chinese suppliers. Their trade will fall off a cliff.
    The virus is nothing to what's coming in trade withdrawal. It's going to roll out with vehemence. China will hurt.

    "From the point of Light within the Mind of God
    Let light stream forth into the minds of humans.
    Let Light descend on Earth.
    And may it seal the door where evil dwells.
    Let Light, Love and Power restore the Plan on Earth

  100. Hmmm... Bill Gates leaves Microsoft Board...

  101. G7 schedules extraordinary leaders summit over COVID-19 outbreak

    "...We will coordinate research efforts on a vaccine and treatments, and work on an economic and financial response"

  102. It's projected this virus will last a year and cripple nations. Don't use restaurants and cafe and glove up with disposables filling fuel tanks the pumps will be dripping with virus. People handling food in stores are thick morons who will leave infection all over the packs while they mess with everything. Everywhere will be dangerous . Next week watch it ramp up it's going to rocket


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