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CIA, Saudis to give "SELECT" Syrian militants weapons capable of downing commercial airliners

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CIA, Saudis to give "SELECT" Syrian militants weapons capable of downing commercial airliners

Zero Hedge
By Tyler Durden
5 November 2015

Wednesday brought a veritable smorgasbord of “new” information about the Russian passenger jet which fell out of the sky above the Sinai Peninsula last weekend.

First there was an audio recording from ISIS’ Egyptian affiliate reiterating that they did indeed “down” the plane. Next, the ISIS home office in Raqqa (or Langley or Hollywood) released a video of five guys sitting in the front yard congratulating their Egyptian “brothers” on the accomplishment.

Then the UK grounded air traffic from Sharm el-Sheikh noting that the plane “may well” have had an “explosive device” on board.

Finally, US media lit up with reports that according to American “intelligence” sources, ISIS was probably responsible for the crash.

Over the course of the investigation, one question that’s continually come up is whether militants could have shot the plane down. Generally speaking, the contention that ISIS (or at least IS Sinai) has the technology and/or the expertise to shoot down a passenger jet flying at 31,000 feet has been discredited by “experts” and infrared satellite imagery.

But that’s nothing the CIA can’t fix.

With the Pentagon now set to deploy US ground troops to Syria (and indeed they may already be there, operating near Latakia no less), Washington is reportedly bolstering the supply lines to “moderate” anti-regime forces at the urging of (guess who) the Saudis and Erdogan.

Incredibly, some of the weapons being passed out may be shoulder-fire man-portable air-defense systems, or Manpads, capable of hitting civilian aircraft.

But don’t worry, those will only be given to “select rebels.” Here’s more from WSJ:

The U.S. and its regional allies agreed to increase shipments of weapons and other supplies to help moderate Syrian rebels hold their ground and challenge the intervention of Russia and Iran on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, U.S. officials and their counterparts in the region said.

The deliveries from the Central Intelligence Agency, Saudi Arabia and other allied spy services deepen the fight between the forces battling in Syria, despite President Barack Obama’s public pledge to not let the conflict become a U.S.-Russia proxy war.

Saudi officials not only pushed for the White House to keep the arms pipeline open, but also warned the administration against backing away from a longstanding demand that Mr. Assad must leave office.

In the past month of intensifying Russian airstrikes, the CIA and its partners have increased the flow of military supplies to rebels in northern Syria, including of U.S.-made TOW antitank missiles, these officials said. Those supplies will continue to increase in coming weeks, replenishing stocks depleted by the regime’s expanded military offensive.

An Obama administration official said the military pressure is needed to push Mr. Assad from power.

“Assad is not going to feel any pressure to make concessions if there is no viable opposition that has the capacity, through the support of its partners, to put pressure on his regime,” the official said.

In addition to the arms the U.S. has agreed to provide, Saudi and Turkish officials have renewed talks with their American counterparts about allowing limited supplies of shoulder-fire man-portable air-defense systems, or Manpads, to select rebels. Those weapons could help target regime aircraft, in particular those responsible for dropping barrel bombs, and could also help keep Russian air power at bay, the officials said.

Mr. Obama has long rebuffed such proposals, citing the risk to civilian aircraft and fears they could end up in the hands of terrorists. To reduce those dangers, U.S. allies have proposed retrofitting the equipment to add so-called kill switches and specialized software that would prevent the operator from using the weapon outside a designated area, said officials in the region briefed on the option.

U.S. intelligence agencies are concerned that a few older Manpads may already have been smuggled into Syria through supply channels the CIA doesn’t control.

If that sounds insane to you, that’s because it is. Even as US intelligence (which we can only assume emanates from the CIA) indicates that IS Sinai likely brought down a Russian passenger jet with 224 people on board, the same CIA is working with the Saudis to supply “select rebels” with weapons capable of shooting down commercial airliners.

In order to make sure no one ends up blowing a 747 out of the sky, Washington will “retrofit” the weapons with “special” software that makes sure they can only be used in certain areas.

Make no mistake, this has gone beyond absurd and is now bordering on the bizarre. It’s apparently not enough that the US is supplying anti-tank missiles to rebels shooting at the very same Iran-backed militias that the US implicitly supports across the border in Iraq so now, the CIA and Saudi Arabia will give these rebels the firepower to shoot down planes, meaning that in the “best” case scenario they’ll be firing at Russian fighter jets, and in the worst case scenario these weapons will end up in the “wrong” hands and be used to down commercial flights.

It's difficult to see how John Kerry can attend "peace" talks in Vienna and keep a straight face while chatting with Sergei Lavrov. That's not to say that Russia bears no responsibility for its role in the conflict (sure, Moscow is supporting a "legitimate" government in Syria but they're still dropping bombs on populated areas), but the US and the Saudis are arming Sunni extremist groups and encouraging them to shoot at Russian and Iranian forces. For Obama to suggest this isn't a proxy war is absurd.

Putting this all together, it now appears possible that the US is, i) sending anti-tank weapons to rebels who are shooting at Iranian soldiers, ii) embedding ground troops near Latakia which means they'll almost certainly be engaging Hezbollah directly, and iii) passing weapons capable of downing a commercial airliner to "select" militants days after a Russian passenger jet exploded in the skies above the Sinai Peninsula.

This is all in conjunction with the Saudis and Erodgan, who just rigged an election in Turkey on the way to rewriting his country's constitution.

And the Western media reports this with a straight face as though it all makes some measure of sense...



  1. British Starburst missile took down Russian plane - no bomb

    "Someone within US intelligence called the Michael Savage radio show Wednesday, November 4 and said the bomb story is false. Obama & Putin know it was a British Starburst missile traveling at mach 4 fired by either Saudi or ISIS fighters using a hand held launcher. An analyst added that when Obama retreated from his "line in the sand" and made the Iran deal, the Saudis (Sunni) knew they were alone and allied with ISIS. The governments do not want people to know a shoulder launched missile can take down an airliner at 30,000+ feet.

    Why are they spreading the bomb lie and not the missile facts: According to the caller they want to boost TSA and grant it much greater power and use it in greatly expanded ways.

    ISIS released a video showing their take down of the airliner:

    Savage begins subject @1:10:00 and @1:19:10 Caller explains missile info and hangs up. @01:22:15 a bomber pilot explains an airliner can be shot down by hand held missile launcher:

    It has already been reported that ISIS has missiles that can shoot down airliners:

    British Starburst missle took down Russian plane - no bomb

    Valdi: Cameron and Obama are pushing the "bomb planted by terrorists" line because they don't want the public to know ISIS already have Starburst missiles, supplied to Saudi Arabia by the UK. Putin knows. Cameron needs a change of diaper.

  2. Five jihadists? You are joking. They look like they've just been pulled out of a freshers' party at Oxbridge and had some fake beards slapped on their drunken mush.

  3. ISIS did not even need to enter the picture unless one of the purposes was to weaken Egypt which is highly reliant on tourism. Obviously elements of the parties who attacked Egypt in 1956 due to the nationalisation of the Suez Channel, namely Israel, France and the United Kingdom have an issue with the new Egyptian expansion plans of the Suez Channel. Apparently Promethean solutions are not accepted across the globe. Real growth, real progress.... Where is the evidence? It was a Russian plane and it happened in Egypt, so why the COBRA meeting and why the global preliminary report pushed by the UK indicating a bomb was on the plane? Here is the article titled "UK govt: ‘Significant possibility’ bomb may have downed Russian passenger jet over Sinai":

    The United Kingdom is purposefully destroying Egypt's tourism sector that way. Shut up and let Russia and Egypt conduct the investigation instead of spreading fear.

    Russia is now starting to indicate publicly which parties are behind ISIS:

    "Ramzan Kadyrov has accused the US and other Western nations of “spawning” the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorist group in order to incite hatred towards Muslims all over the world."

    The US is not the only party mentioned. It is convenient to lay all the blame on the US, but it would stop immediately with waging war against the world if it did not have the support of more powerful European elitists.

    What I do know is that originally the Venetian parties behind the Bank of England created the British Secret Intelligence Service to protect it. John Dee of the Worshipful Company of Mercers was the agent from which the concept of James Bond originated.....John Dee was a Rosicrucian, alchemist, magician and the key intelligence agent of Queen Elizabeth I. Assuming the Bank of England is now under control of other parties, it certainly is not unreasonable to assume the Bank of England still has major if not some control over the SIS. Now would be a good time to use that control to reign in some of this global terrorism.

    There is no hedging bets in this global conflict. You are either a Promethean or you are an enemy of the Prometheans. Why this particular imagery? The myth is that Prometheus stole fire from the Gods and thereby allowed mankind to make great progress. The Gods were not happy with this and thus made sure that Prometheus would severely suffer for all times. There are only Prometheans and arrogant Olympians. The irony of the situation is that in this world, it is the Olympians who stole from the Prometheans and now pretend to 'rightfully' own it all....

    The Prometheans who state so are not communists by any means. Piracy is not capitalism and yet these Olympians will pretend it is at every turn.

    First the US complicity with ISIS was exposed. If this is kept up, soon the miscreants of Europe will be fully exposed for the whole world to see. History is then only extra baggage....something unwanted.....not something to be proud of.


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