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What heaven's really like - by a leading brain surgeon who says he's been there: Read his testimony before you might just shake your beliefs

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Dr Eben Alexander says he was taken 'on a voyage through a series of realms' after he went into a coma when he was diagnosed with meningitis

What heaven's really like - by a leading brain surgeon who says he's been there: Read his testimony before you might just shake your beliefs

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By Dr Eben Alexander
17 October 2014

When I was a small boy, I was adopted. I grew up remembering nothing of my birth family and unaware that I had a biological sister, named Betsy. Many years later, I went in search of my biological family, but for Betsy it was too late: she had died.

This is the story of how I was reunited with her — in Heaven.

Before I start, I should explain that I am a scientist, who has spent a lifetime studying the workings of the brain.

My adoptive father was a neurosurgeon and I followed his path, becoming an neurosurgeon myself and an academic who taught brain science at Harvard Medical School.

Although nominally a Christian, I was sceptical when patients described spiritual experiences to me.

My knowledge of the brain made me quite sure that out-of-body experiences, angelic encounters and the like were hallucinations, brought on when the brain suffered a trauma.

And then, in the most dramatic circumstances possible, I discovered proof that I was wrong. Six years ago, I woke up one morning with a searing headache. Within a few hours, I went into a coma: my neocortex, the part of the brain that handles all the thought processes making us human, had shut down completely.

Dr Eben's Alexander's 'heaven' was filled with music, animals, trees, and colours and was extremely vivid

At the time, I was working at Lynchburg General Hospital in Virginia, and I was rushed to the emergency room there. The doctors ascertained that I had contracted meningitis — a rare bacterial strain of E coli was in my spinal fluid and eating into my brain like acid. My survival chances were near zero.

I was in deep coma, a vegetative state, and all the higher functions of my brain were offline. Scans showed no conscious activity whatever — my brain was not malfunctioning, it was completely unplugged.

But my inner self still existed, in defiance of all the known laws of science.

Magical: He said he found himself as a speck of awareness on a butterfly wing, among pulsing swarms of millions of other butterflies

For seven days, as I lay in that unresponsive coma, my consciousness went on a voyage through a series of realms, each one more extraordinary than the last — a journey beyond the physical world and one that, until then, I would certainly have dismissed as impossible.

For thousands of years, ordinary people as well as shamans and mystics have described brief, wonderful glimpses of ethereal realms. I’m not the first person to have discovered that consciousness exists beyond the body.

What is unique in my case is that I am, as far as scientific records show, the only person to have travelled to this heavenly dimension with the cortex in complete shut-down, while under minute observation throughout.

There are medical records for every minute of my coma, and none of them show any indication of brain activity. In other words, as far as neuroscience can say, my journey was not something happening inside my head.

Plenty of scientists have a lot of difficulty with this statement. My experience undermines their whole belief system. But the one place I have found ready acceptance is in church, where my story often tallies with people’s expectations.
"My knowledge of the brain made me quite sure that out-of-body experiences, angelic encounters and the like were hallucinations, brought on when the brain suffered a trauma"

Even the deep notes of the church organ and the glorious colours of the stained glass seem to echo faintly the sights and sounds of Heaven.

Here, then, is what I experienced: my map of Heaven.

After the blinding headache, when I had slipped into the coma, I gradually became aware of being in a primitive, primordial state that felt like being buried in earth.

It was, however, not ordinary earth, for all around me I sensed, and sometimes heard and saw, other entities.

It was partly horrific, partly comforting and familiar: I felt like I had always been part of this primal murk.

I am often asked, ‘Was this hell?’ but I don’t think it was — I would expect hell to be at least a little bit interactive, and this was a completely passive experience.

I had forgotten what it was even to be human, but one important part of my personality was still hard at work: I had a sense of curiosity. I would ask, ‘Who? What? Where?’ and there was never a flicker of response.

After an expanse of time had passed, though I can’t begin to guess how long, a light came slowly down from above, throwing off marvellous filaments of living silver and golden effulgence.

It was a circular entity, emitting a beautiful, heavenly music that I called the Spinning Melody. The light opened up like a rip in the fabric of that coarse realm, and I felt myself going through the rip, up into a valley full of lush and fertile greenery, where waterfalls flowed into crystal pools.

There were clouds, like marshmallow puffs of pink and white. Behind them, the sky was a rich blue-black.

Despite scans showing his brain was
not functioning, Dr Alexander had a 
vivid experience
This world was not vague. It was deeply, piercingly alive, and as vivid as the aroma of fried chicken, as dazzling as the glint of sunlight off the metalwork of a car, and as startling as the impact of first love.

I know perfectly well how crazy my account sounds, and I sympathise with those who cannot accept it. Like a lot of things in life, it sounds pretty far-fetched till you experience it yourself.

There were trees, fields, animals and people. There was water, too, flowing in rivers or descending as rain. Mists rose from the pulsing surfaces of these waters, and fish glided beneath them.

Like the earth, the water was deeply familiar. It was as though all the most beautiful waterscapes I ever saw on earth had been beautiful precisely because they were reminding me of this living water. My gaze wanted to travel into it, deeper and deeper.

This water seemed higher, and more pure than anything I had experienced before, as if it was somehow closer to the original source.

I had stood and admired oceans and rivers across America, from Carolina beaches to west coast streams, but suddenly they all seemed to be lesser versions, little brothers and sisters of this living water.

That’s not to denigrate the seas and lakes and thunderstorms that I’ve marvelled at throughout my life. It is simply to say that I now see all the earth’s waters in a new perspective, just as I see all natural beauties in a new way.

In Heaven, everything is more real — less dense, yet at the same time more intense.

Heaven is as vast, various and populated as earth is ... in fact, infinitely more so. But in all this vast variety, there is not that sense of otherness that characterises our world, where each thing is alone by itself and has nothing directly to do with the other things around it.

Nothing is isolated in Heaven. Nothing is alienated. Nothing is disconnected. Everything is one.

I found myself as a speck of awareness on a butterfly wing, among pulsing swarms of millions of other butterflies. I witnessed stunning blue-black velvety skies filled with swooping orbs of golden light, angelic choirs leaving sparkling trails against the billowing clouds.

Those choirs produced hymns and anthems far beyond anything I had ever encountered on earth. The sound was colossal: an echoing chant that seemed to soak me without making me wet.

All my senses had blended. Seeing and hearing were not separate functions. It was as if I could hear the grace and elegance of the airborne creatures, and see the spectacular music that burst out of them.

Even before I began to wonder who or what they were, I understood that they made the music because they could not contain it. It was the sound of sheer joy. They could no more hold it in than you could fill your lungs and never breathe out.

"From then on, I was back in the old, earthly world I’d left behind before my coma struck, but as a genuinely new person. I had been reborn"
Simply to experience the music was to join in with it. That was the oneness of Heaven — to hear a sound was to be part of it. Everything was connected to everything else, like the infinitely complex swirls on a Persian carpet or a butterfly’s wing. And I was flying on that carpet, riding on that wing.

Above the sky, there was a vast array of larger universes that I came to call an ‘over-sphere’, and I ascended until I reached the Core, that deepest sanctuary of the Divine — infinite inky blackness, filled to overflowing with indescribable, unconditional love.

There I encountered the infinitely powerful, all-knowing deity whom I later called Om, because of the sound that vibrated through that realm. I learned lessons there of a depth and beauty entirely beyond my capacity to explain.

During this voyage, I had a guide. She was an extraordinarily beautiful woman who first appeared as I rode, as that speck of awareness, on the wing of that butterfly.

I’d never seen this woman before. I didn’t know who she was. Yet her presence was enough to heal my heart, to make me whole in a way I’d never known was possible. Her face was unforgettable. Her eyes were deep blue, and her cheekbones were high. Her face was surrounded by a frame of honey-brown hair.

She wore a smock, like a peasant’s, woven from sheer colour — indigo, powder-blue and pastel shades of orange and peach. When she looked at me, I felt such an abundance of emotion that, if nothing good had ever happened to me before, the whole of my life would have been worth living for that expression in her eyes alone.

Dr Alexander became a neurosurgeon and an academic who taught brain science at Harvard Medical School

It was not romantic love. It was not friendship. It was far beyond all the different compartments of love we have on earth. Without actually speaking, she let me know that I was loved and cared for beyond measure and that the universe was a vaster, better, and more beautiful place than I could ever have dreamed.

I was an irreplaceable part of the whole (like all of us), and all the sadness and fear I had ever suffered was a result of my somehow having forgotten this most central of facts.

Her message went through me like a breath of wind. It’s hard to put it into words, but the essence was this: ‘You are loved and cherished, dearly, for ever. You have nothing to fear. There is nothing you can do wrong.’

It was, then, an utterly wonderful experience.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, I had been in my coma for seven days and showing no signs of improvement. The doctors were just deciding whether to continue with life support, when I suddenly regained consciousness. My eyes just popped open, and I was back. I had no memories of my earthly life, but knew full well where I had been.

I had to relearn everything: who, what, and where I was. Over days, then weeks, like a gently falling snow, my old, earthly knowledge came back.

Words and language returned within hours and days. With the love and gentle coaxing of my family and friends, other memories emerged.

By eight weeks, my prior knowledge of science, including the experiences and learning from more than two decades spent as a neurosurgeon in teaching hospitals, returned completely. That full recovery remains a miracle without any explanation from modern medicine.

But I was a different person from the one I had been. The things I had seen and experienced while gone from my body did not fade away, as dreams and hallucinations do. They stayed.

Above all, that image of the woman on the butterfly wing haunted me.

And then, four months after coming out of my coma, I received a picture in the mail.

As a result of my earlier investigations to make contact with my biological family, a relative had sent me a photograph of my sister Betsy — the sister I’d never known.

The shock of recognition was total. This was the face of the woman on the butterfly wing.

The moment I realised this, something crystallised inside me.

That photo was the confirmation that I’d needed. This was proof, beyond reproach, of the objective reality of my experience.

From then on, I was back in the old, earthly world I’d left behind before my coma struck, but as a genuinely new person.

I had been reborn.

And as I shall reveal on Monday, I am by no means the only one to have glimpsed the afterlife — and the wonders it holds.

Extracted from Map of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon Explores the Mysteries of the Afterlife & The Truth About What Lies Beyond by Dr Eben Alexander, published by Piatkus at £14.99.

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  1. This is to help many who asked guidance.

  2. Thank you for sharing, this article is wonderful.

  3. Agreed. Great article. Heaven is real is a good movie as well. "what you do on life echoes in eternity" - Maximus Decimus Meridius

  4. "on life" ..stupid auto-correct..should be in life..drrrrr

  5. I recommend Eben Alexander's book "Proof of Heaven". His hardest task was to convince himself of the validity of his experience; the next hardest was to face the skepticism of medical colleagues who, like mine, are conditioned to deny the supernatural as having any scientific reality. During six years of basic training, I don't recall being given even one half-hour lecture on spirituality, alternative medicine or the impact of culture, ethnicity, race or religious belief on people's attitudes towards life, death and illness. A nephew and niece, who had recently qualified as doctors, told me they also had no lectures on these topics. Nothing has changed in all the years since I qualified.

    1. Hi Valdi, I thought you might like to know, I went through med school in Brisbane for a while before my depression hit in 2000. A big part was 'patient-centred medicine' in which their religious, cultural and spiritual bearing impact both their views of healthcare and also our decisions wrt consent etc. I now work at a Catholic hospital where these values are forefront, and not only Catholic - all religions etc are taken into account. Our end-of-life care ethos is strong and is part of the curriculum I administer. This is common in Australia - not sure about other countries. I had a chuckle at the neurosurgeon's skepticism. Palliative Care physicians on the other hand would have no problems with this material.

    2. AJNAANDY,

      So sorry I missed your comment earlier. I have very little time these days to scour the Net or keep up with Canauzzie's postings. It seems the depression didn't stop you making a success of your career and could even have been a blessing if it directed you where you are now. I hope you made a full recovery and are in good health. If the Aussies and Kiwis don't get completely suckered into the NWO camp I'd love to go back, sit out on the deck sipping a beer and watch the sunset over the Tasman. Care to join me?

    3. You would be most welcome Valdi. I think us and the Kiwis still have some of that common sense that the UK enjoys so we are not beat yet. The puppet in Canberra is quite unpopular so let's see what happens in 2016. But we are trying to get his dual citizenship paperwork released on FOI to boot that homewrecker out asap. But I digress.. the Tasman, looking out over the waves, beers and barbie, something to look forward to :)

  6. What you are, is your free will choice, but, what you take with you is the sum of those choices.
    Richness of Soul. is not about money, and real wealth is the Universal Enrichment and compassion you bring to others.
    What we take with us is the sum total of the character we became.
    Real values are family, people and nature values. Goodness is free. A smile or hand of friendship can mean life is worth living for some..Just aspire to be more. Life will then work out. Me, me, me is ugly. Undeserving. False Gods are naked Emperors. All is within, just seek. We are all as one. just the some total of all. In time, all will get it.


    Is Washington planning to give people a premature taste of the hereafter?

  8. Wow, it's all about Love...words are inadequate to describe. This testimony is beautiful beyond words...

    Thank you John and Canauzzie...

  9. Truly an amazing experience! Save me a place with my family please! Lol.

    Valdi - Thanks for the heads up on the FEMA fun possibly being planned. America, buckle your seat belts, more "fun" on the horizon it looks like!

    1. You are welcome, Calgirl. I hesitated to mention it on this particular thread devoted to the reality of heaven.

      It is possible to venture into the universe of light to experience the love, joy and peace of God without being desperately ill, near death or under the effect of entheogens. How different this world would be if as children we had learned the truth and not had our minds poisoned by misinformation, deceit, materialism and false religious dogma; as our bodies have been poisoned by toxic foods, vaccines, chemicals and drugs. Humanity has been debased genetically, physically, psychologically and morally in the way empires debased their gold and silver with base metal. It's little wonder our world is in such a mess. Our soul is the gold; our ego the base metal.

  10. John

    I do believe that much is done behind the scene......I trust what you are saying...

    .....however this is daily reality .....

    Blast rocks chemical plant in Donetsk, claims of tactical missile

    Time what is done behind scene begins to bear fruit on the stage.....

  11. How long NAZI will rule in USA ?????

    USA even today keep paying to former Nazis benefits .....

    United States paid generous benefits to dozens of former Nazis, who left the USA. At least four of them are still valid. According to the AP, payments were means to these people cross the borders. However, the authorities refuse such a suspicion.

    If they keep paying them benefits now, it means they kept doing that always at first.....

    Few stages of NAZI history of USA
    USA was NAZI country since FED born .... 1934 first coup d' NAZISMO ....after the WW2 NAZI revaluation and since JFK NAZI revival ..... since 9/11 NAZI domination ....

  12. Sorry for posting under spiritual article this ugly side of humanity.....

    ....inside I am pushed to say more but I will restrict myself as for now.....

    I am sorry we have to deal with this crap .... and crime done by sub-humans NAZI ZIO JESU - ITS

  13. Which country would pay benefits to ENEMY, think hard folks. NAZI were never enemy to USA, that little show on the stage of sheeple was necessary to swindle minds, as it was with NAZI Zionistst and holocaust to make establishment of Isra-hell...

    ;;;;;; - these folks have historic evidence that Zionist did all possible so that Jidish or some Jews ended up as they did......

  14. Living The Grecovery Dream: Two Jobless Parents, Two Kids, One Cat All Living In A Car ....
    Squeezed between steering wheel, handbrake, door and dashboard, Katerina reads in her history book, takes notes for school. Next to her, on the driver’s seat, cat Eddy stares right in the camera lens. It may look like a cute snapshot on a sunny day, if it wasn’t for a sad detail: a withering spring stuck in a roll of toilet paper. A distinctive memory of a former normal life that turned into a grim reality for a family of four.

    I do not understand this ..... it is too far from our world

    1. Vlastimil, it's not just Greece, but found throughout the so called civilized world.There's nothing cute about living out of your car, have done it. Can't imagine what it would be like with a family. Only when things are made better for the people of the planet, not the upper crust who never shared, but the little people who keep the world going. They are the ones who will see benefit of the switch being pulled. Opportunity will be made by people coming together and creating new work, new jobs, and a new world. For the little people, by the little people.

  15. Panetta Ex CIA NAZI freak.....

    "We should provide strong support and heavy weapons to Kiev as it is needed. The greater the Ukraine, the stronger the signal to Russia that it will pay dearly if they continue the same course of actions, "said Panetta.

    For God's sake....stop supporting fascism ...burn that den of snakes to ashes before they burn all world to simple as that. Crash USD before those US NAZI crash the world....

    I can not smell anything anymore 'made in NAZI USA' - sorry about that......

  16. So this is being run on Russia TV popular show..... real stuff .... they say it as it is .. all nation knows...

    Army must be mad like wild dogs on USA, EU, UK .... if they come they will not distinguish who is politician or what..... all will be one - people who conspire against Russia....

    If they come what will the knowledge of Black Boxes would be good for then? Release it, save lives.....

  17. Here come the link ..... to Russia TV show...

  18. Burn West to ashes for the sake of humankind ... no more West among civilised people .... no civilisation brought so many atrocities to the world as West and they keep doing it what they did for ages.....

    Crash USD, EURO, NATO EU, USA....

    1. So to end suffering you want to create even more suffering?

    2. Vlastimal,

      A lot of hostility lately. Why do you constantly talk about killing people who have done nothing to you.

      There is evil in all corners of the world. Yours included, but 95% of the planet is good. It's the 5% that we need to focus on changing.

      Might be time for a siesta.

    3. I suggest you take out your dong.

      Slap it in your hands, smell it, feel it, touch it.

      Imagine all the things you can someday do with that dong.

      Imagine how much stress and hostility will be gone when your dong potential is realized.

      When you look at your dong it puts a smile on your face....doesn't it?

    4. JV

      My wife does it for me, always with smile..., I am sorry guys ..... if we make it we are lucky, I am not talking about RV....

  19. No evidence of mass killings in Doneck ... EU proclaims...

    MOSCOW, October 20 (RIA Novosti) - Both pro-Kiev forces and independence supporters have been involved in extrajudicial killings in eastern Ukraine, however, there is no substantial evidence of mass killings near Donetsk, Amnesty International said in a report published Monday.
    "There is no doubt that summary killings and atrocities are being committed by both pro-Russian separatists and pro-Kyiv forces in Eastern Ukraine, but is difficult to get an accurate sense of the scale of these abuses. It is likely that many have not yet been exposed and that others have been deliberately misrecorded," Europe and Central Asia Director of the human rights body John Dalhusien was quoted as saying in a press release attached to the report.

    So, there is actually no war in East Ukraine ... all we hear is just Russia propaganda ......, by the way there was no Maidan ... and Yanukowych finished his term legally on time...and that's why there is no president legally elected...

    MH 17 was down by Gagarin who is still in orbit working for KGB....namely for Putin who is in fact twin brother to Lenin, both were kept in mausoleum but Lenin's twin brother was there kind of hibernated and that's why he looks still so young, he was brought back life to finish what Rotten-child began...

    ......all other news is propaganda from Russia.....

    How can anybody say anything that I do .... crash fascist USD and their NAZI empire - namely EU, Israel, USA and world will be set free ....

    1. Whitewashing Kiev Mass Murder

      Stephen Lendman

      Washington ousted Ukraine's democratically elected president. It elevated fascist thugs to power.

      They're radicalized ultranationalists. They're overt anti-Semites. They're militant hate-mongers. They have no legitimacy whatever.

      They're convenient US stooges. They're puppets. They take orders from Washington.

      They masquerade as politicians. They represent mob rule. They make mafia bosses look saintly by comparison.

      For the first time since WW II, overt fascists have real power. They hold major government posts.

      They represent the epicenter of European fascist reemergence. They usurped power by force. They're waging war on their own people.

      Right Sector neo-Nazis attacked Kiev residents and police. They bear full responsibility for Maidan killings.

      Clear evidence proves it. Ousted President Viktor Yanukovych had nothing to do with what happened.

      Previous articles discussed it. What Kiev won't reveal. What it suppressed. Whitewashed.

      Wrongfully blamed on Yanukovych. Shamelessly regurgitated by Western governments and media scoundrels.

      Investigations when conducted conceal what's most important to reveal. Regime killings are systematically whitewashed.

      On October 10, Reuters headlined "Special Report: Flaws found in Ukraine's probe of Maidan massacre." More on this below.

      Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet's leaked conversation last April with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton revealed what happened.

      He visited Kiev. He commented on what he learned. It's polar opposite mainstream propaganda. He explained what's vital to know.

      Yanukovych was wrongfully blamed, he said. "(T)here is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovyich, but it was somebody from the new coalition."

      "The Russian side is enraged by the militant provocation which is an indication of the reluctance of the authorities in Kiev to bridle and disarm nationalists and extremists."

      On March 12, 2014 former Ukrainian Security Service head Aleksandr Yakimenko confirmed Paet's assessment. He blamed putschist official Andrey Parubiy.

      He co-led Ukraine's 2004 Orange Revolution. He's a neo-Nazi Svoboda party leader.

      He served as National Security and Defense Council secretary. He did so until stepping down in August.

      "Shots came from the Philharmonic Hall," said Yakimenko. "Maidan Commandant Parubiy was responsible for this building."

      "Snipers and people with automatic weapons were 'working' from this building on February 20. They supported the assault on the Interior Ministry forces on the ground who were already demoralized and had, in fact, fled," he added.

      "When the first wave of shootings ended, many have witnessed 20 people leaving the building."

      They were carrying military-style bags used for sniper and assault rifles with optical sights.

      Many witnesses saw them. Foreign elements may have been involved. Perhaps CIA, US special forces, and secret service operatives.

      What happened was well planned in advance. "These were the forces that carried out everything that they were told by their leadership - the United States," Yakimenko stressed.
      See more at:

    2. Thans Fed up...

      You are guys worthy case to fight for......

  20. Canauzzie , JV

    With all respect.....

    It is a big dog fight going on at this very moment I am sure that Russians are down in bunkers ... they try to insult Russia at this time one more time...Swedish *sub* attack .... missile in Doneck --- they do all that deals about gas delivery to Ukraine will not work hoping that this will cause the final spark.....

    They denied mass murder in Doneck...., EU refuses to accept vote in Doneck Luhansk....all coming down in these last few days.... last few days, last hours.....

    It is dog fight at this very moment .....nuke war or not....everyone can read their filthy lips spitting venom ...

    So what does UK does? Sitting on Black Boxes waiting what dog will win and after the fight they will say, ' Well we were always on your site'. Diplomacy.

    I am right, sorry. Release the content of the Black Boxes and it is over at the moment. Take a stand, but of course they can not they wait as they did in WW2 with D-Day launch. It was launched only after it was clear that Russia defeated Hitler and it was only a matter of finishing him up...and only then they went on continent, (not talking USA went there to create a corridor to save the main aim...) What the hell it will be good to have content of Black Boxes in hands when nuke mushroom over head? I want to know that.

    So, what I am mad, like a dog. Nothing is wrong with me. All I am asking UK takes the stand, release the boxes, pronounce UK will not support NAZI party of NATO and USA for this and those reasons to avoid nuclear war .... fight over, at the moment UK gets total protection from Russia and China...

    And if I use figure of speech burn it to what. I am mad so be it, everybody should be mad to death, it is about if we make it to morning .... it is not me who is threatening peace by nuke war. It is not difficult to read their moves. My question is if I come from work will I see my family, if I make it come from work? It is in the air....feeeeel it. I am right.

    Either they are burnt by truth or they will lead everything to the point when all will be burnt by simple as that. I am sorry, waking up at nights because of this. This is for real.

  21. Lets calm down the overt over the top stress here.

    1. America has now c330M population. Most are just normal , law abiding and decent family people. Many proud of their nation.
    2. The US problem is the rotten Political system and State Chicanery where mass Fraud is endemic from the Unions out. The system itself, not the people is rotten. A rapidly changing new Global dynamic will change it all. Americas dominance is being discarded across Asia, and ridiculed throughout the EU. Obuma has presided over a shambolic authoritarian fiasco, and probably taken the nation beyond recovery as global Overlords. Poor mass education and a muzzled Zionist media has derailed the Republic and all its values.
    3. America is facing Fiscal implosion. Its people face an indeterminate future and may need all our understanding and support in the years to come. Inept Politicians have failed to support Industrial growth, and focused only as pigs at the trough in their orgies of greed. The results are now plain to all. Insolvency. Mass unemployment and a basket case Welfare State. The US is now on the verge of becoming a part Banana Republic. Those with, and those without. A recipe for Social implosion. Somewhere in the middle of that will be 100m desperate human beings. A failed system and a Zionist Nasty party.
    The nation cannot pay for the misdeeds of the few. They are as much disenfranchised by the theft of their nation state and hopes.
    War is a last resort and not likely. Why fight when Asia can sidestep the US, as is happening, and let it collapse economically? China is smart, and Russia has outplayed the abysmal O administration on the world stage. America will need all our help if it goes. Human Beings will be desperate. Lost and defenceless.
    The US simply needs a new Political direction then much can be recovered. Encouraging that needs to be our direction.
    Huge abilities are as restrained and need release. Let us wait and see a new direction post the first PP releases. It needs to start from there.

    1. I understand .. thank you,

      1 ..... it was not about fear - porn. Just reading lips of murderers and their visible actions...

      2 .... no problem supporting Americans

      3 .... at the presence there are others who need acute support - East Ukraine that did do no wrong - just stood up for all of us...and our values. They refused NAZI fascist rule that is US made ...

      Their industry systematically destroyed by forces lead by USA - about 40-50% of industry destroyed. How will they make it over winter? OHHHHH Putin has to fix it. America destroyed it Putin has to fix it.

      Maybe those people who are slaughtered there by American lead coalition need more support then Americans...

      How about to be fair? I do not want to get into more details though I would like but it is not necessary....not now.

  22. Friends of OWON and beyond,
    I've been away for a long time but know that I'm missing all of you.

    Me and family are doing find, just taking sometime off to take care of personal issues and finalizing our preparations in case anything goes wrong. Also we are experiencing Huge Water Problems in São Paulo already and it is driving us crazy, other than California amigos, our water reservoirs are under 3%. With such concerns for my family I took a break to complete many missing tasks.

    I had a lot to catch up and I had to do this for my family and also for others as an example, like "I do what I say and I say what I do". I live on prevention and for certain months I putted my final preparations aside. This is the time to complete what needs to be completed folks.

    as of now we are suffering a major drought in this city. I never though we could face a water problem in such volume in this state, as water is always abundant in this country. This was man made and the blame goes to the fxxxxxxx politicians screwing with us all, unfortunately. All this because mismanagement and theft. Billions were released few years ago to advance infrastructure in our area but nothing was done.

    No one seems to care anymore, no one works on prevention just act when there is a fire. Unbelievable folks.

    If gets worse than this, we will be forced to move, because people are already going to other municipalities to catch gallons of water. Anyway we decided to move as soon we have Dongs coming. Hopefully its soon folks. You know, desperation among 15 million people in a city as this is not funny to partake.

    Unfortunately at this time I'm not accessing OWON as often as before, neither commenting, but I'm always double check the news and updates. I hope to come back soon friends, as soon I complete my tasks.

    Much peace and health to all of you.

    1. BoB, best of luck with your preparations.

    2. BoB

      Thanks for update....sorry to hear such, man just make it through somehow....

      our prayers and thoughts are with you....may your blessing decent on those around you....

      Just what I would think off ....

      Try to get

      1. MMS -

      .... to clean water from variety of stuff .... and make drinkable ... plus clean your body system and protect it...

      2. Water distiller ..... easy to get or make

    3. BoB best to you and your family. Am including a link for Brad Lancaster, someone who is responsible for sharing many techniques that work in droughty areas. He has helped many communities throughout the SW US and beyond and is truly a nice person.

  23. Bob all the best to you and your family

  24. Fascist Poles .....snakes, spitting venom of lies .....

    I should not comment so much on it, rather they should explain why they ran CIA camps in Poland why they trained Maidan fascist in Poland....

    By that time they were already doing calculations about how to seize Crimea as a way of blackmailing Viktor Yanukovich [ex-Ukraine president, ousted in February2014],” Sikorski told Politico, “I know from my conversations and meeting with Yanukovich that he wanted to get the [European Union-Ukraine] Association Agreement.”

    He said that he believes that Putin was blackmailing Yanukovich not to sign the deal.

    “And I think he told him: ‘Don’t sign the Association Agreement; otherwise we’ll seize Crimea.’ That’s why he cracked,” speculated Sikorski.
    According to Sikorski, Putin’s intentions to start a war in Ukraine date back to 2008 at a NATO summit in Bucharest, Romania, when he wanted to separate Ukraine and divide it between Moscow and Warsaw.

    “This is where [Putin] gave his extraordinary speech saying Ukraine was an artificial country and the greater part of these lands historically belonged to Russia,” he said.

    Sikorski added that Putin’s intention to annex Crimea began to alarm in 2011 and 2012, when he started visiting Russian bikers’ festivals on the peninsula.

    “We learned Russia ran calculations on what provinces would be profitable to grab,” says Sikorski.


  25. In ten days time it is the 31st of important day. Not because of the reasons most might think though. It is not due to Halloween. The 31st of October is Reformation Day. It is THE Day for anyone who truly stands for freedom and liberty and far more important than any other day that might celebrate freedom and liberty. It is based upon the act performed by Martin Luther to challenge the Catholic Church and in the process provided more freedom than practically any other event in history. It is not by accident that Halloween happens to ´accidentally´ take place on the same day and thereby attempts to eclipse the importance of Reformation Day. The Jesuits carefully planned to blot Reformation Day and its relevance out of history with the introduction of Halloween. As much fun as Halloween possibly could be, its true purpose makes it unfortunately a direct insult to real freedom and liberty.

    1. As far as I am concerned there have been positive developments. I will address the ones I deem most relevant very briefly and also correct mistakes I have made in private correspondences in the past. THE Master Trusts of the ruling power structure globally Romanus Pontifex, Aeterni Regis and Convocation have come under attack and in a sense this should spell the beginning of the end. Not that the validity of these countermoves will be accepted by those in power, but nevertheless this makes such parties stand in dishonour.

      IRS issues seem to be the result of filing incorrect documents which makes the rules applicable by consent.....Tax Class 2 documents vs. Tax Class 5 documents. One is meant for men and women, the other for corporations. That is to say that Form 1040 is a document intended for corporations.

      Birth certificates, whether it concerns the live born record or the certificate of birth seem to be of no value in one sense besides granting certain privileges necessary for most for day to day interaction. It is what the remission and remittance represent that does have value. It is about the claim of right and the perfection of that. Those documents in themselves do not grant superior title regardless of what Dean Clifford or others may say. (That is not to say that individuals such as Dean Clifford are not smart, as they are, but the purpose should be to minimize controversy and conflict). Birth certificates stem from the English Poor Laws. The Church promised to take care of the poor which effectively meant the poor were wards of the Church and thus under the complete control of the Church. As such these certificates merely indicate that one belongs to the disenfranchised. One without assets, one without standing. A document necessary to travel the land, not any different from your Type P Passport which indicates you are a pauper/peon/peasant. One cannot have one foot in the system and one foot outside of the system. Best to do it properly or else you will lose your footing and this is still possible whilst co-existing in peace with the current system.

      Unlike general beliefs Romans were not nearly as competent as the victors in history would like one to believe. They had no language of their own originally. Their language is merely the mirrored language of the conquered Etruscans. What they exceeded at was managing assets and in particular slaves via registers. It is here where the word surname originates from too (although first used in the 18th century under Napoleon) from sura/suri and nomen.....all directly related to slavery. The gavel in court is no different. It has a commercial origin....the auction of slaves. Guild....guilt....guilder. BAR Association. These are commercial matters, not true matters of justice or else court originating from the word cortio meaning to bond would have been called a basicilica instead.....the true name of a Roman court.

      Catholicism is founded upon Anglo-Saxon Law and NOT Common Law. Common Law does not provide the rights and freedom people think it does. As such Anglo-Saxon Law needs to be utilized and not its impostor that goes under the name Common Law. Nevertheless such misinformation is dangerous when history is systematically rewritten by Jesuits in particular. That would not be the first time either. Shakespeare was the work of the powerful House of Breakspear (from which a Pope originated) and the English Jesuit College and brought forth hundreds of new words....many of which ended with ment from the Latin mente which means mind. Control of the mind....government, agreement, acknowledgement (etc.) happened to provide a perfect applicable framework for law....

    2. The main issue always was that there was no alternative to current system with all its iniquity. That is swiftly changing. Even more important in my opinion than a proper monetary system is a better system of law and that is in process. Oh, the irony of this situation...... Venetians, Franciscans and Jesuits can create and destroy, that much was already known. How befitting is it then that an estranged family member of one of the most senior Jesuits (who too has a Jesuit education) actually might be leading the way to a new system of law that will compete directly with the Holy See corporation, but instead has all the ethics, all the fairness that the first never had. There originally never was an escape from the system, except for highly competent non-in testate individuals. The monopoly position needed to be breached and with that darkness makes room for light.


      I would like to stress that it is not organizations or groups that are the problem, but the ideas that are in the mind or mente (in Latin) of people. If those ideas are changed, everything else changes with it. This also provides a remedy to problems just as in law. In law, remedy is necessary for any law to be valid. In real life it would be appropriate to provide the same. If anyone from a specific family or group is judged for belonging to that family or group, then it leaves them with no way out and as a result the only option they will be left with is to fight for their lives. Of course this does not apply indefinitely to everyone. Nobody can be allowed to be given an incredible number of opportunities to do the right thing and squander all of them on purpose.

    3. I would like to add a couple of points to further elucidate the workings of the current system. I apologize if it is not as clear as intended as the italics are missing in this format:

      Money is not the equivalent of barter. There is a noteworthy difference that goes unnoticed to most. Money has a spiritual basis. Within the Roman system the Treasury of Heaven takes the central position to ensure the ability to create money. The blood of Saints, martyrs and Jesus offset the sins of the world and thus balances the books. Wall Street would collapse without the underlying philosophy of the Treasury of Heaven. The essence of money goes back even further to the times of ancient Egypt....the place of the greatest stock exchange in all of history...not far from the Suez Channel where goods from Asia and Africa could travel to Europe and back....or should we call it more appropriately its reverse.....the Zeus Channel? The first form of private (Temple) money made its entry at Thebes and Karnak in particular whereby the divine was brought forth from Heaven to Earth. Bank....Ba-Ankh (Egyptian). God.....Gold. The Jesuits masterminded the idea that souls could be transmuted into the form of gold and thus be salvaged. The word salvation is derived from this salvaging and linked to the (gold) BAR Assocation. A transaction involving 666 ounces of gold which cost 666 Pounds brought forth the Inner and Middle Temple in the City of London (and you might want to consider where the Outer Temple is that is never mentioned). That transaction would also serve as a fundament for the Bank of International Settlements itself. Once the machinations of history are truly understood, it can be changed in proper fashion. Curses can be undone. The potential is there to vastly improve upon the current legal system and with it, the entire financial system itself. In one fell swoop ALL weaknesses of the current system could be removed. Permanently removed. Knowledge itself is the foundation upon which everything can be built. Anyone who can acquire knowledge of true relevance can build such foundations.

    4. Thank you as always for your contributions.

      To make text in italic use a < with an i then > at the beginning of what you want in italic, then < with a / then i then > at the end. The first should look like the last without a /. I can't type it exactly or it won't show.

    5. Saturnalia S: I would like to make a comment:
      I do not think that this system they set up since the beginning can be undone. I truly believe that a totally new system based on "good" must be set up to offset their satanic system. The weaknesses in the current system appear to be loopholes and disconnected; actually there is a reason for everything and do not underestimate their resolve. It's all created under the slavery system with the ANKH stolen by QE; she broke it and we are locked into this construct...

      By: Yellow Rose For Texas-
      Money – Money was created as part of the Slave system of the Babylonian slave Queen ‘Selene’ who’s Saxon name was Elizabeth 1. “Gloriana/Inanna”, her Hebrew Coven name was “Lilith”. Her first Husband, Alexander created the Covens of Azazel, which are defined as the Papal, Royal, & Federal Covens of Selene. Among his coven names were “Azazel, Massawa the great architect, and Baphomet”. This is the Coven age history, and the creation of Pharisees and Caesars. He also created the freemasons which is run by QE3, and the Illuminati is run by the Papal. This was not a thousand years ago, it was at the turn of the 1900′s. They seized all the libraries and they own the education systems which were created by them for the express purpose of returning man to the dark ages of illiteracy and idiocracy.

      After the war, in order to protect Lilith QE, they divided up the power structure. They moved the seat of the Pharisees to England from Rome. The papal is the legislator branch, the royal QE is the executor branch, and the federals are the judicial branch. It is the Federals who were called the Merchants and the money lenders at the temple of SET whom the Hebrew covens called “Solomon, the wise Serpent” and Sumerians called “An”.

      These three, commonly called the 3 Ptolemy’s, created and control the slave system. They created Covens that were renamed Religions worldwide. They created Commerce, Banking and money systems, Corporations and the 5 day work week were all fruits of labour are seized as tribute to ‘god’ which is their dual name system of the ‘corporations’ who the covens ascribed certain ‘Divine Rights Powers and Privileges’ over the nations. They created the Judges and the Corporate Courts, where no one gets real justice, because they blinded justice for the purpose of gaining a fee. They created taxation on mankind. All of this was their specific form of slavery, and they controlled all of it as a single blood and marriage related group. This is who we went to war with and this is who created the use of Covet Means as a specific form of Warfare. These are not “Hebrew”, nor are the “Jews” or “Zionists”. All the name game is a smoke screen. It is one group.

    6. (Continued from Yellow Rose For Texas)

      The “Merchant” specialists on Wall Street work for the few blood relations of QE that are called “Federals”, that own it. They rig the markets.
The Papal is the Securities Exchange Executor “Holy S.E.E.” Who rigs the Securities? It is the Vatican who issues all Charters, and all Covens are under their umbrella corporation. From the incorporated Coven “Jesuit” to Coven Corporations “Proctor and Gamble.”
QE owns the Freemasons that run the Money printing presses. “QE 1,2,3″ is Queen Elizabeth’s Executive Orders for the Extraction of all Nations by Covet Means. She owns 48 Nations by ownership of the incorporated entity the Papal placed over them in 1917. IE “ISRAEL, U.S” etc.
Rothschild owns the “Crown” which is a corporate bank. He owns all but 3 banks worldwide, including China’s HSBC. And this is how Libor is rigged. It is the Federals who were put over the nations and incorporated the governing bodies, and this is how they control the legislation passed from the papal and then enforced on the people. Rothschild created the Bills of exchange Act, which bills you for your electric use from the corporations a federal was given divine right to own.
They own the UN, which is forcing sterilization, chemtrails, agenda 21 and gun control.
They own the “147 Corporations…”
And this is the Company store system they set up over the world, their ‘Babylon’.

      They believe that they are fighting the War in Heaven for the ‘other’ side who opposes mankind. They believe that they fight for the Branch of SET. Which is the “Left Hand Path of SET”, “Service to Self”. The Highest service to self is murder of self or other, a sociopath. They have practiced eugenics for the specific purpose of creating the ultimate sociopath. They are dangerously insane and evil.

      Corporate governing bodies, and money systems…all of these were based on the esoteric Left Hand path, and are designed to promote the highest degree of service to self – murder of self or other. This is why when they get abolished, then restarted, they instantly corrupt again. This is not the original system of Mankind. Mankind is the Right hand path, and part of the Divine. Our original system was called Acceptance for Value.

    7. Hello FedUp,

      I indeed did believe in the past there was no undoing what has been done either, but currently I am absolutely convinced there most certainly are possibilities to maneuver around the obstacles that is the current Roman system of law. It is however very difficult to reach the competence required for that and misdirection via disinformation agents does not make that any easier. For example the Acceptance for Value ´remedy´ touted on the internet (to quote from the last line of your accompanying article) is extremely dangerous to use without understanding its proper applicable context and acting in a responsible manner. Furthermore a major issue is that the operators of the current system of law are largely incompetent and that makes it even more difficult to resolve issues when they do not even understand their own system of law. Either way, it is absolutely necessary to know exactly what has been done in history to apply the appropriate remedy. Speculation is not an option if it is to work. As such this is not meant for the majority of the population due to the effort required to acquire the necessary competence (as it likely takes years or at least one year). I agree with you that the current system is not sustainable and needs replacing, but one cannot get out of something when one has no idea how one got into it in the first place. There is thus a level of undoing what has been done that is absolutely necessary. A new system of law will have to replace the current Roman system of law (and it will do so). Indeed it has been observed by many that the monetary system of the world does not function in a sustainable way, but this is due to the laws that make it legal to do so. The underlying system of law needs to be addressed if everything is to truly change.

    8. Absolutely!
      I totally agree with you; and it all begins with knowing our past so that we don't repeat this trapped unsustainable system in the future. However, the knowing and deconstructing is an endeavor that will come through understanding what we have been dealing with.

      Difficulty comes with speculation because in speculating we are dealing with assumptions; which most definitely may not be true to facts. When we look at "absolute value" we must move away from the conventional terms and focus more on the needs and values that render life worth living. This value is within each individual person, as a value unto itself.

      Basically, the rules which render laws operable must be replaced...I do agree!

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  26. John, I have a question I have been wondering about for a long time. I would appreciate it if you could answer it, but I understand if this topic cannot be discussed at this time. I have noticed that there still seems to be a conflict between Leo Wanta and Michael Cottrell ever since Christopher Story started reporting his personal perspective on the matter. It would appear that various parties have chosen sides and support one of the two. By extension it thus would appear that Cottrell and Wanta might actually be vying for the same limited pool of funds. This becomes more confusing due to your provided perspective on Cottrell, whilst both Cottrell and you seem to be in excellent standing with Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II and Cottrell seems to represent Her Majesty´s interests according to Christopher Story.

    So I am wondering whether this issue represents merely a difference in perspective on how to best utilize limited resources or whether far more structural differences underlie this matter. In what way does the US Dollar Refunding Program lack credibility? Christopher Story on behalf of Michael Cottrell made it appear as if Her Majesty´s funds underpin the US Dollar Refunding Program. I am not supporting Cottrell above other parties. As a matter of fact, based upon observed behaviour I consider Leo Wanta to be the more honourable and trustworthy man. I am merely asking as certain groups among which I am situated feel as if we are being held hostage by Michael Cottrell and his US Dollar Refunding Program and wish to be released from this captivity one way or another.

    1. Saturnalia.
      I replied privately to you via Canauzzie in depth.
      But basically the position is as follows.
      MC started off providing aid and support to Leo, as it was all Leos case. It was then sheltered under a series of Corporate entities. Leo and Mike had a parting of the ways and Leo alleges Mike "walked" with part of his claim by jumping it.
      Leo publicly circulated that to DC which was copied on site from our direct copy to Obama from Leo.
      We tend to stay out of it.

      CMKX is basically a Mares Nest going nowhere. They need to either Put Up for a serious major Law Firm of credible standing and resources, or simply Shut Up and accept the loss. Whining is for losers. They need to Fund and fight like Winners! Bleating is for Wimps and tiresome. Put -Up.

      The presumption of MC ever representing HM the Queen is a serious misunderstanding. They have no such status. Nor support. Washington is not going to release such assets to these sources. It's not about Justice, it's about might. For that you fight and fund. Or lose and go into the night. Wimps never win. Reality.
      I was " asked" years ago not to get involved because it was going nowhere. As seen to date. Storey was messy and part deranged.
      These claims will not be settled by Dreamers. Fight and Fund Up or get over it. Sorry, but yearly bleating of what is a perceived ambulance chase gets ever more tiresome.
      If Regan has serious intent, why not formalise it? He had the power and authority. Washington won't give a dime back unless forced. By whom? A Champ from Chumpsville? Fighting needs funding and a Top Law Firm, but who will take on DC? Dreams are free. Settlement is not.

    2. Thank you, John! Your response is much appreciated and you are right. We could have done more, but we can still make that difference.

    3. Yes Saturnalia, but ONLY if you get organised and credible leaders to front your case. .

      Sorry - But?
      I don't doubt your case or claim, but the strategy has been limp wrist and failed. A few letters from minnow sources go nowhere. It like trying to hit Sampson with a wet fish.

  27. Talking about a reset of consciousness, unity and aligned vision, who wants to answer the door? We have a visitor or three...

    Alien message to mankind: Do you wish that we show up?
    "What can we offer?

    We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life, constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradication of suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness."

    1. AJ
      We can do this ourselves...why do we need them? They're the ones who got us into this mess of a reality from the beginning...bargaining with the same devils...nah! We'll do it ourselves...we have the power and authority.

    2. Yes, It is vital we do this ourselves fedup and it is my hope more people choose to do so. The main point of their message is that using free will is a use of consciousness. It matters not if the answer is yes or no, but the use of our consciousness is the point. I want to ride spaceships and see some astronomical objects plus to meet them would be a hoot. But everyone's choice in this matter is honoured. I reckon they read this site :)

    3. Thank you for the link, AJNAANDY. Fascinating reading. I want to build a starship to get away from this hellhole!! But first, I have to build my son a hover board.....

      btw - I left a comment for you higher up this thread.

    4. I guess we'll know in a few weeks to months Valdi.. I get their point that we need a system buster event, but that it is up to US which way we go, as fedup says. I hope the people who read it choose 'yes', because that is the same as building a starship - it will be a starship of consciousness and mind and awareness. Nanoo nanoo.

  28. Anaandy

    Thank you for the comment. Slowly it is building but we need all of you to raise this little issue called consciousness. All evolves around it.

    1. So it does not help so much to bark like a mad dog....does it? Not it does not. Sorry about that....

    2. You are our mad dog vlastimil so you can bark if you want lol.

    3. Living with conscious awareness of ourselves is key I think Vlastimil. If one has that and still chooses to bark so be it, the point is to not live as an unconscious reactive being when there is an amazing capacity within us to be so much more aware of our presence. Your choice is honoured.

  29. Gunfire Reported Inside Canada’s Parliament

    Apparently a soldier guarding the War Memorial and a gunman were shot dead. A search is on for more gunmen with parts of Ottawa on lockdown......

    1. I do not advocate violence, but would not shed a tear for Harper.

    2. Sorry about that incident canauzzie....not sure what is happening .... it makes little logical sense ....

      It is like that Swedish Stockholm 'sub' observed by civilians and reported...after few days Sweden announces ..... We will shoot you if you are still there....we have decided now to do so with all our might...we really can. Undersigned, Swedish idiots for the fun club of anti-Russia crap.

  30. We will be removing all CMKX issues overnight as it always unleashes an unstoppable Flea Circus of ever greater desperado's and deflects attention needed elsewhere. It is an area and issue we want no part of. End of.

  31. Personally,

    I know nothing of CMKX, but I thought it was informative dialogue and banter.

    I'd keep it on the site.

    1. It will be all removed.

      It spotlights certain parties that don't need it. Out of respect to them it will be removed.

      I am only leaving it temporarily so site readers can digest it. The opportunity for those to say their piece. Then it will be gone.

    2. JV,

      Take my advice. Mental wards are full of people who are there because they cannot confront life and are unable to stay in the present. They live in a world of unresolved issues, so overwhelming that they have exhausted themselves along all existential experiences. They see things that are not there. They do things that they should have the day before. They talk to people that don't exist.

      Trying to understand CMKX is akin to trying to help someone in the aforementioned condition.You can try, and just when you think you are making progress with them, they are flinging their poo at you and engaging in a victory dance.

      To know nothing of CMKX is to be inculcated with bliss that only a Yogi can achieve in the deepest meditation.

      Don't let that gift slip through your hands.

      If there is any validity to the CMKX payouts, they will happen when those in charge of such push that button. If there is no validity to it, then there are no people, and no buttons marked CMKX to push because there is no money. Truth, reality and just what is, will soon be known.

      I would write more, but I have to rip the sink out of the floor, throw it through the window and get some lunch.

  32. Dave,

    More innuendos and misleading statements. I have had enough of this BS.

    I do this on my own time and dime for the benefit of all. Not just to provide you a soapbox to accuse and insult.

  33. When dealing with key and core issues in Washington, understand the core ground rules. DC is a Village. You need to know whose who in that Zoo. It means retaining a Washington Law Firm of substance accustomed to dealing with the US Treasury, Fed, and Justice. People able to call up direct, with the Bona Fides and valid direct contacts. People known to the Suits and well versed in the system and all its intestacies. Acceptable known and proven Suits. Otherwise they will, and do, blank you.
    They don't respond to remote contact,look at Holders track record even.
    If your not in the Club, your in the excreta and deep doo doo. You may as well turn up with your Dong in your hand and whistle Dixie.
    Now a half intelligent Advocate would know that. If your not in DC, your not in the game. If you don't know that, you don't know excreta. Dreaming Delusional s are just noise on the system. Deals are like cards. Know when to hold them, know what to fold them, know when to walk away.
    Silly letters to DC from Palookerville just go to the Can. Credibility zero.
    Watching these altercations is sad. Zero Brownie Points for strategy, and Dogfights best avoided because you can't reason with ignorance. Even worse, with some of the visible bottom feeders living in the Kingdom of Denial.
    We chose not to even start assisting certain time wasting lost causes. Some of them seem to be cross hooked in all of the Mugs deals. That says what? Forget Sleepless in Seattle, how about Clueless on Washington?
    Precisely why we try to spot the No Hoper Crap Shoots to avoid. Time is money and some were scalped already.

  34. US Paid Banished Nazis Millions in Social Security to Save on Avoided Expenditures: Expert

    MOSCOW, October 22 (RIA Novosti) - Dr. Efraim Zuroff, the Director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel, spoke with Radio VR about the recent AP report claiming dozens of Nazi criminals have received millions of dollars in US social security payments after being expelled out of the country, with the US government reasoning that this was the beat way to save money instead of carrying out costly deportation procedures.
    The social security payments the Nazi criminals received were part of a deal to allow the Nazis to voluntarily leave the US before the court would order them so. “The money that they’re getting is not the money that they stole from the Jewish people in Holocaust. This is the money that they paid into the US Social Security system when they were working in the United States”, Dr. Zuroff says. “By convincing those people to leave before they would be deported, the US saved millions of dollars because they avoided the lengthy legal proceedings that would have cost them a lot of money. The idea of Nazi criminals living comfortably at the expense of the American taxpayers is really shocking and outrageous, but it is not that shocking and outrageous as it seems on the headlines”.
    The US was one of the principal destinations for Nazis after WWII, many Nazi war criminals were discovered in North America much later after the war. “The US has prosecuted more Nazi war criminals in the last 30-35 years than any other country”, Dr. Zuroff says. “But very few of them were put on trial. And this is precisely the problem. The Office of Special Investigations did what the law allowed them to do, which is to deport them”.
    (more at link)

  35. The Lie Machine

    ATLANTA, October 14 (RIA Novosti) - I have come to the conclusion that the West is a vast lie machine for the secret agendas of vested interests. Consider, for example, the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership and the Transpacific Trade and Investment Partnership.
    These so-called “partnerships” are in fact vehicles by which US corporations make themselves immune to the sovereign laws of foreign countries in which they do business. A sovereign country that attempts to enforce its laws against an American corporation can be sued by the corporation for “restraint of trade.” For example, if Monsanto wants to sell GMO seeds in France or US corporations wish to sell genetically-modified foods in France, and France enforces its laws against GMOs, the Transatlantic Trade Partnership allows France to be sued in jurisdictions outside the courts of France for “restraint of trade.” In other words, preventing the entry into France of a prohibited product constitutes restraint of trade.
    This is the reason that the US has insisted that the Transatlantic and Transpacific Partnerships be totally secretive and negotiated outside the democratic process. Not even the US Congress has been permitted knowledge of the negotiations.
    Obviously, the Europeans and Asians who are agreeing with the terms of these “partnerships” are the bought-and-paid-for agents of the US corporations. If the partnerships go through, the only law in Europe and Asia will be US law. The European and Asian government officials who agree to the hegemony of US corporations over the laws of their countries will be so handsomely paid that they could enter the realm of the One Percent......

    These phony “trade agreements” are advocated as “free trade removal of tariffs,” but what they remove are the sovereignties of countries. America is already ruled by corporations. If these faux “trade agreements” go through, Europe and Asia will also be ruled by American corporations.

  36. Here`s an article over at Zero Hedge I think everyone should read.

    How The Federal Reserve Is Purposely Attacking Savers
    Tyler Durden's picture
    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 10/22/2014

    Long but here are some excerpts

    Submitted by Chris Martenson via Peak Prosperity,

    There's something we 'regular' citizens wrestle with that the elites never seem to: a sense of moral duty.
    For example, following the collapse of the housing bubble, many people struggled with mortgages they could no longer afford to pay, fearing the shame of default. Many believed defaulting was wrong somehow; that it was their moral obligation to pay their mortgages, no matter how dire their personal situation. And of course, the mortgages lenders did their utmost to reinforce this perception.
    In a perfect world, we would honor our debts and obligations, every one of us. But the world is an imperfect place ,and moral obligation is something that almost never enters into the decision matrix of our society's richest. Or the banking industry.
    For them, the number one (and two, and three...) rule is that whatever is expedient and makes the most money is the right thing to do.
    For the bottom 99%, it’s like playing with a stricter set of rules than your opponent: you’re not allowed to hit below the belt, and they’ve brought a baseball bat into the ring.
    Rich people have terrible credit. They know that there’s a system and it has rules. And, for them, these rules can (and should) be optimized for their own benefit. So they do anything and everything that works to their advantage.
    There’s a reason and a logic to that which I can appreciate, but it makes me wonder where the rest of us obtained our deep-seeded beliefs about duty and responsibility towards debts.
    Similar to rich people, banks do not have any entangling moral restrictions on their behaviors. That absence allows them to get away with extraordinary misdeeds, none more obvious and damaging than those that the Federal Reserve has perpetrated on the nation, specifically, and the world, more broadly.
    To understand why, we first have to discuss something called Financial Repression.

    Financial Repression
    when the central bank and government conspire to create a condition of pervasive and unavoidable negative real interest rates.
    This is the heart of Financial Repression: an environment in which you literally cannot save money without paying a penalty.
    Step 1: Governments get into trouble by borrowing too much.
    Step 2: Rather than pay this down honestly via cutting spending (unpopular) or by defaulting (even more unpopular), the government conspires with the central bank to slowly liquidate the stack of obligations by forcing negative real interest rates on everyone.
    Step2b: Hang on one wouldn’t work if people could dodge the Financial Repression, so a ring fence has to be built out of capital controls and explicit rate caps on and across the whole spectrum of interest-bearing securities.
    Step 3: Sit back and wait for everyone with savings to contribute their purchasing power to those who issued the debts, be those public or private entities.
    And this is exactly what has happened. All of the talk about the Fed focusing on unemployment or inflation or whatever are red herrings. What the Fed is really trying to do is to create a set of macro conditions that will allow the federal government to slowly crawl out from under a pile of debt and entitlement obligations that it literally can not pay by honest, above board means.
    Its long but well worth the time to read.

  37. Currency Update realities to help both sites. Especially Tony who seems besieged with many good and stressed parties. There is need as well as greed.

    1.Contrary to the usual guru dissinfo there is as yet NOTHING profiling for 26 th. Clear? NOTHING showing.
    2. This is an issue we will probably need a major automated road slammer hammer to knock into some skulls- affordability. There is no major pot of Gold,- ANYWHERE! to service and settle the wild expectations of mass Grunts assuming its their rights to cash and walk with Gzillions of unearned profits. No one denies anyone the right to speculate and gain. Welcome to the Club. But buying hyped crap is NOT speculating, but being mugged. Taken for a Sucker. We are offered $500M blocks for c$500K. So why not buy? Because none of it clears basic diligence. The blind, gullible and some outright stupid, think if making $500M they are a genius. As if! We see a fool who just got mugged for $500K. It keeps on failing Diligence. Nothing makes sense.
    3.Who will fund all of this? Use what passes for a brain. Even a 10% increase will savage Vietnam's economy. Iraq can not afford more than c $5T to be issued. At whatever price. Yet hundreds of Ts of Dinars were allegedly printed. Totally unsustainable. And who will pay? It's like looking in on a Turkey farm listening to some Bloggers.
    4.Reality is that the Special Interest groups will get a deal, and get out rich. Some crumbs will fall and some will get a lucky hit. So good luck. Hopefully its you. But most of the public speculators face a dubious future. They just don't profile right or get it. The US is broke. China, apart from some Special Interests, is NOT coming to your rescue. Nor is anyone else. The world has changed, so have the rules.
    5. It's unreal to read from parties who think they can walk into a bank, clutching notes with no Provence, and walk out with Millions in USD. Please, ask those people to look at a Sam Elliot mug shot asking- Are You a Special Kind of Stupid? Such parties may find their notes being sequestrated by the banks as suspicious movements of funds, and possible Money Laundering. If you have no credible Bank Relationships, expect a lot of trouble. At $10K the system switches on. And you want to exchange how much? Who are you? Expect Anal checks. Suspicious funds reports will go off the map. At least for those even lucky to get a shot at trading out. Many will just get an Anal rebore by the Banks. Have you got a bank in place able to help you. If not- What the Hell game are you playing at? Get your act together if not. Google into Sam Elliot. Hit Special kind of Stupid and look at the images pics. ~We need to start selling them as T shirts. I walked into the Bank with $5M of Jungle Bunny Paper, the bank took them and threw me out dressed only in this T shirt. For some Life may be cruel.
    6. None seem to be asking who will pay for all this? Do you know?
    7. At best the world could probably raise raise c$7T to catch all. But no, the Public wants hundreds of Ts, its my right.
    Start printing the T shirts Sam. Also get the pics on the Vaseline jars. A market is coming.

    The 26th will come and go. Nothing will show, leaving you where?
    But IF you get lucky in time, at what rate, and have YOU got the Banking to take it in? No Bank is going to accept a queue of Hillbillies reaching around 5 blocks with papers of dubious provenance. Don't be a Gurus Grunt. Think out your case and be Bank ready in case because this mess may trigger Bank Knee jerks pretty fast if the mess unfolds. Banks are NOT run by Morons. They know that a bank market which can sustain a few T is looking at a paper Titanic if the alleged numbers are right. Banks all have weasel clauses and windows will go up fast. This IS being helpful as many may need a wake up call fast. The big question, do you have a clue what you are doing?
    Try walking even $100K in cash in clean USD and listen for the bells. And you plan to walk in what paper with no pre planning? Good luck with that.

    1. Hi John,
      Thank you for the update. Hopefully the regulars on here and WHA will heed and prepare. For the readers who are prepared, I.E can produce W2s and history of employment, have history with major banks, have receipts for all currencies and are professionals in their own respective fields that hold currencies, what advice can they take and apply to be in best position on the board since we are playing w/o a queen but sometimes pawn structure can promote a queen in the end?

  38. John can you clarify NetDania present Overnight trading of the VND/USD , which obviously if no benefit to those hoping for an increase in the worthless paper DONG . Which is not expected to go above the range of .47 - $1.00 upon its RV , and even as you stated Vietnam will be crushed even if there is a more than 10% increase . However we gather here to get the political realities of our world . I am sincerely grateful . Thank you. We all wish we were a member of that special group.

    1. All or nothing

      Lets wait and see what rates the markets set. Anything else is misleading. Public Market expectations are looking to multiply funds by more than 100 times. Good luck with that. Sensible reality will settle all issues. Will the system allow tens of thousands to cash out Millions each and go play with the Fairies? Not in a million years. A few will get lucky if organised. Most will get a come to Jesus call.
      Some of these people seem to be carrying the mental capacity of the residual output of an anal search in Disneyland. Santa will disappoint so many- again. Even questioning it profiles us as Public Enemy No one.
      It's maahh right! Right.
      I suggest parties get ready in case and get on with real life anyway.

    2. I understand the dinar is overprinted and basically fraudulent. That makes sense that there could be issues.

      All I really care about is getting my money back or some of it for the Dong. It's worth the risk even if all I can do is sell it back and take the 10% exchange haircut. I bought it at my private bank and they debited my account.

      This is a legally traded international currency. Albeit, way devalued, but traded internationally in banks. And supposedly not overprinted. I just can't imagine them saying sorry, it's worth nothing.

      I understand the exchange rate could even drop, but to just become worthless seems strange.

      I also don't understand this issue of who will pay. If I exchange dong into euro, pounds, yuan or dollar, nothing has been created. No new money has been created, only moved into a new currency. If anything, the dollar has been more overprinted that any currency on the planet.

    3. JV

      1. First, No Bank will Exit your Dongs unless it has a ready buyer. A few K Yes, but Millions, No! So a market has to be formed. Who apart from Vietnam will want to buy Dongs and at what rate?
      2. YES,Most Dongs should get you out if clean currency. No rate projections.
      3. But here is the crunch. Vietnam is a finite market and capacity will be taken up fast. When we tell you to go for it, get to the banks and cross trade out. Once Banks fulfil market needs, parties will have to wait for slots. The 2 sites give you the lead. The Aaahh cant move maah arse for 5 days will get left behind. Selection of the species. We will give you the opportunity. use it or lose it. You hopefully should be OK. Banks will not overstock and bail the market. Get in once we signal. As long as your banking is OK you should be OK. Fingers X. Dinars, Jesus Christ I think it will be so loud with screams you will think a lot are getting their cut! ( Joke!)
      So few even have banking, its unreal some of the crap we read. Banks have no idea what's coming.

  39. Yea your right John, bans aren't run by morons just theives, crooks, & pedofile s who would steal your grandmothers life savings, but we should completely trust them when the time ever does come to exchange. THX for the update

    1. You got that right Scott. Plus most are even more confused than Blogs.

  40. Yes I say this is a dead deal and we all need to get off all these sites, Skypes, blogs ECT and move on. Bottom line there is no RV, if there is it Might be in next few years, MAYBE. If that does happen the Dong might be able to go up to .000067 at best. Those of us in the states that bought them and will try to exchange them for $500 dollars back at best will be met by Homeland Security to be hauled off to prison.

    In all seriousness, I hope everyone sees this is not going to happen for anyone and no one is getting a dime from anything, not now, not ever. I personally just wanted to pay off some debts and start a business debt free without having to go to the SBA which is a joke anyway , the do not lend to small business owners unless you already have a million in the bank as collateral, big big joke. Just another Gov Funded entity that does nothing for the people but pay big salaries to the employees, just like State Workers in Texas that work half days and make 150K a year...sounds like our Dinar gurus...I think we all need to give this a rest and move on now...we can keep in touch and talk about other things and maybe cross promote projects or community jobs to help each other. I am selling any currency I have back and buying silver coins and moving on from this.

  41. John

    Hinduja bank Switzerland LTD,

    I have there my account ....., would it qualify? Or is there chance we get tips.

  42. Vlastimil

    The Hindujahs will ask few questions.

    1. This should not be that bad....if one can answer them right....

      ....however, would there be any institutions that would not ask questions?

    2. Possibly only in the Arab world, South America or Pakistan.

  43. Replies
    1. 1, I doubt they will exchange for you but they may accept in the transfers after trading out through a major.
      2. Also its a case of how much and each bank will view it differently. Most may seek both Audit and Legal opinions before taking in such funds as it is all an unusual movement of funds needing both Compliance and Risk Management approval.
      3. There may yet be Withholding taxes applied all to be cleared and certified as Tax Cleared funds. There are hurdles ahead.and its EACH persons responsibility to clear it. Large amounts will need enormous checks and many will lose their existing accounts if they scare their banks, we see this all the time.
      Please, the rest will have to sort it out we cant vet every bank. You all got into this. Learn what it needs. Its your journey now.

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  45. The Document Dump that Could Kill Hillary’s Presidential Hopes

    Although Mrs. Clinton is still embroiled in scandal, the overwhelming amount of information that has been released by the National Archives could strike a serious blow to her chances of becoming president.

    A good deal of America doesn’t believe Hillary Clinton when she declares that she and the rest of the administration did everything they could to prevent the attacks on Benghazi from taking place.

    But while her current behavior is classless and abusive, voters will hopefully see that the pattern of behavior is nothing new as scandal from years gone by will be rearing its ugly head.

    That’s because the National Archives will be releasing over 10,000 pages worth of documents covering the former first lady’s time in office.

    The documents cover the Whitewater investigation as well as the death of deputy White House counsel Vince Foster. They also cover many of the pardons her husband issued at the end of his term, getting into the specifics of how they were granted (illegitimately).

    What will be interesting is voters will get to see how Mrs. Clinton was an ineffective first lady while working alongside her husband. The batch of documents will cover her influence in the failed health care overhaul of the 90s.

    It will also detail her actions during the 2000 Senate campaign in New York.

    Though Hillary Clinton will run on her own ticket, the role her husband held at the time will likely still affect how voters perceive her in the upcoming 2016 elections.

    The documents will look into Hillary’s legacy as a first lady and will show how Clinton interacted with prosecutors in both the Monica Lewinsky scandal as well as the Paula Jones sexual abuse scandal...(see more at link)

  46. How true is this story? I wonder...if it is true...
    Obama Abolishes 22nd Amendment-Generals Arrested
    Posted about 11 hours ago
    - See more at:

    WASHINGTON DC-President Barrack Obama, citing his executive authority, has abolished the 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and, in a related move, ordered over 500 generals in the U.S. Military detained under house arrest. The moves are seen as an obvious attempt to foster the absolute power of the executive branch and gain universal autonomy over the military and bureaucratic functions of the federal government. Even Obama’s cabinet has been placed under arrest. Vice President Biden was forcibly removed from his office. Bill Ayers was seen at the President’s side.
    Secret Service Agents have been seen taking strategic positions around the White House to prepare for possible riots. Obama has obtained the tea party leadership listings from the IRS for the possible purpose of political retribution.
    The President called together all 50 state governors for a video conference to announce his intentions behind closed doors. Only two governors, Scott Walker (R-WI) and Ned Perry (R-TX) refused to take part. It is not known what fate will befall the two renegade governors. A line of tanks and mobilized infantry has been reportedly seen advancing toward Madison, WI and Austin, TX, respectively.
    The 22nd Amendment, ratified in 1951, states that “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.” It was feared by Republican members of Congress that Obama would make a brash move of this sort. The timing was very surprising, however, and the minority party had no time to react. Troops and heavy artillery are currently surrounding the U.S. Capitol Building and Supreme Court. Justice Ruth B. Ginsberg has apparently taken gravely ill, having fainted at the site of the military action in Washington. Shots were reportedly heard coming from inside the Supreme Court. As of yet, the condition and whereabouts of Associate Justice Antonin Scalia is not known.

    House Speaker John Boner (R-OH) was obviously caught off guard; “We knew the president was thinking along these lines, but never did we (fellow Republicans) think he had the testicular fortitude to take this kind of action.” His words were abruptly cut short when troops cut his microphone and ushered him away from the public eye.
    Although it is not known if the 2014 mid term election will take place, there is no reason believe they will. Obama has ordered the CIA to each county seat in the nation. Some believe this action was done to confiscate ballots and voting equipment while arresting political opponents. FEMA units have also been seen mobilizing, their destinations unclear at this time. Fears are growing that strategic concentration camps will be hastily built and prepared to house political dissidents.
    U.S. aircraft overhead has been dispensing heavy contrails as the military action takes place in the nation’s capitol.
    Baseball’s World Series has been cancelled along with the U.S. portion of the National Hockey League Season. There is no word if the NBA Season will start on time. ACORN Operatives have taken up arms and are currently occupying all large stadiums and sports arenas in the country. Ticket holders to any of these events are advised to stay home.
    Please stay tuned to TNReport for further breaking news. Remember The National Report is your source for official breaking news that doesn't get covered by other, more mainstream, news agencies.

    1. If people are gonna put out fake news like this and expect it to be seen as credible they ought to at least get the names right for the speaker of the house and the governor of texas.

    2. And I just watched the world series. I guess they could have faked the game lol.

    3. I was stumped with this news and was watching the world series wondering...there was an emergency broadcast that was said to be an accident that came from the whitehouse today. Crazy stuff happening, have to sift the hay!

  47. Valerie Jarrett Key Player in Fast and Furious Cover-Up After Holder Lied to Congress

    President Obama’s trusted senior advisor, Valerie Jarrett, was a key player in the effort to cover up that Attorney General Eric Holder lied to Congress about the Fast and Furious scandal, according to public records obtained by Judicial Watch.

    The information is part of a Department of Justice (DOJ) “Vaughn index” detailing records about the gun-running operation known as Fast and Furious. JW had to sue the agency for the records after the Obama administration failed to provide them under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). A federal court ordered the DOJ to provide the records over the agency’s objections. Yesterday JW reported on the broad information in the records, including that Obama asserted executive privilege for Holder’s wife as part of the administration’s efforts to cover up the scandal.

    Practically lost in the 1,000-plus pages of records is an index that shows Jarrett was brought in to manage the fact that Holder lied to Congress after the story about the disastrous gun-running operation broke in the media. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ran the once-secret program that allowed guns from the U.S. to be smuggled into Mexico so they could eventually be traced to drug cartels. Instead, federal law enforcement officers lost track of hundreds of weapons which have been used in an unknown number of crimes, including the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Arizona.

    The files received by JW include three electronic mails between Holder and Jarrett and one from former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke to Jarrett. The e-mails with Holder are all from October 4, 2011, a significant date because, on the evening of October 3rd, Sheryl Attkisson (then at CBS news) released documents showing that Holder had been sent a briefing paper on Operation Fast and Furious on June 5, 2010. The paper was from the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center, Michael Walther.

    This directly contradicted Holder’s May 3, 2011 testimony to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, during which he stated that he, “probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.” The October 4, 2011 date may also be significant because it came shortly after the August 30, 2011 resignation of U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke and reassignment of acting ATF director Kenneth Melson to the position of “senior forensics advisor” at DOJ.

    The description of one of the e-mails, written from Jarrett to Holder, reads, “re: personnel issues.” Another, also from Jarrett, reads, “outlining and discussing preferred course of action for future responses in light of recent development in congressional investigation.” Unfortunately, the index is vague and that’s all the information we have about them. Nevertheless, given the timing and subject of these e-mails, it seems clear that Jarrett quickly became a key player in the Fast and Furious cover-up in the immediate aftermath of the revelation that Holder had lied to Congress.

  48. Weird TV Emergency Alert Across The Country Today

    Americans watching television across the country were puzzled earlier today when an alert from the White House interrupted their viewing, told them to stand by for an emergency message and warned them not to use their phones.

    See Video:

  49. Wow, this is amazing?
    Goodbye To the US of A corporation
    If you go to the following Puerto Rico Corporation website, the United States of America (the corporation)
    has been cancelled. Either go to this web site, at the link click for translation to english:
    or see screenshot below. The corporate USA has been cancelled and the bad guys are no longer in
    charge. Read below – “STATUS – CANCELLED.”

    Also, the United States of America corporate govt was registered with the Secretary of State (of Delaware)
    as a corporation defined as 100 square miles of Washington, DC. The Secretary of State not only cancelled
    the corporate status of the United States of America, they also deleted the corporation from there database.

    Just more signs the Republic is taking command from the corporation. Take notice with these corporate

    registrations the names are in all CAPS.

  50. NAACP Speaker’s Alleged Remarks: Let’s Create Confusion During the Nov. 2014 Election By Deliberately Misleading Voters

    According to a letter from a lawyer for the State of North Carolina to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a speaker at a recent NAACP conference in North Carolina urged audience members to mislead the NAACP’s own members into believing they do not need to register to vote in advance, or that they do not need to vote at their assigned polling place. Why? The letter alleges: To create confusion and animosity during the upcoming mid-term elections in North Carolina, and to use the evidence of that confusion in the ongoing litigation between Eric Holder’s Justice Department and North Carolina and to show that North Carolina’s election integrity laws are discriminatory. From the letter:

    It is also our understanding that during the [NAACP conference], Rev. Barber urged those in attendance to take unregistered voters to vote during the Early Voting period and to engage in get-out-the vote activities that included transporting registered voters to vote in precincts in which they are not assigned to vote on Election Day, or words to that effect. The stated purpose for these activities, as I understand it, was to gather evidence for and thereby enhance plaintiffs prospects of success in the litigation involving [North Carolina’s Election Integrity Laws]. (more)

  51. So, this means now we will get no list of safe banks to exchange at here???
    (I was under the assumption time was needed to compile that list)


    1. Dl - we have the list. It's all the major banks. The ones we don't want to deal with.

  52. Bird is out of the net ...
    Having been relatively quiet for a while, Russia's leader Vladimir, speaking in Sochi (following meetings with Middle East crown princes who confirmed Russia as a key partner - "isolated"?), has unleashed his most aggressive statements with regard the failing world order:

    Putin at VALDAI club spat it out .....

    Adding that the risk of major conflicts involving major countries is growing, as well as the risk of arms control treaties being violated, Putin exclaimed that the US-led unipolar world is like a dictatorship over other countries and that "US leadership brings no good for others," and calls for a new global consensus.

  53. As John said it many times....fools can not help themselves to hide their idiocy ..... they act in such way that their stupidity will be visible like a castle on the top of a rock...

    Putin said it publicly to take a wind from fascist US that US will have no reason to accuse Russia or China smashing USD as fascist way of rule over world ......

    It was necessary to say it public to MSM so that world get prepared and will not accept US fascist accusation towards Russia once cat is out....
    .....It is the best what could happen to the world.....

    The sanctions imposed on Russia by the US and the West, among other financial blunders, are mistakes that have triggered the world to de-dollarize. Russian President Putin describes this as like “cutting down the branches, upon which they are sitting.”

    Putin said that sanctions have an overall negative effect on the entire global community, and actually motivate countries to seek financial sovereignty from the status quo.

    Calls for al-Baghdadi to “declare he is a CIA agent” and “disband his gang”
    Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov believes the mysterious leader of the self-proclaimed Islamic State and former Camp Bucca inmate Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a CIA operative.
    “Baghdadi should take off his mask and declare loudly and clearly that he is a CIA agent, that he has been recruited,” Kadyrov said. “They (the Islamic State) are Shaitans (devils) and their sole obsession is to grab as much money as they can lay hands on. They are acting on orders from the West and deliberately exterminating Muslims.”

  55. OK Lets deal with Currency, Banking and Guru confusion. Sam Elliot is on board with the T Shirts.
    Forex is a special business. A few bucks is one thing, but in Millions it needs professional handling.
    Many seem to be clutching these notes, without Banks able to handle such Forex Exchanges. So, when they approach a smaller State Bank with what appears to them to be Jungle Bunny ,paper, confusion will rule.
    1.See if they have a Major Correspondent Bank able to handle them for you - Ask.
    2. If not, and for most who do not have major accounts, you will need to open an account with a major. You cant walk in off the street with millions, no track record and no provenance of such notes. Sitting there with a dumb ass look when the questions start will keep Sam Elliot busy for months. So please, if you have done no homework or created a brief overview of the audit trail to have the bankers, wear the T Shirt when they ask - What can we do for you?, and what creeps out is - Aaahhh wannt Maah lick. Lol
    3. Such amounts will need to show how obtained and legal rights, plus be counterfeit tested and checked. They will also run Criminal Record checks on you as part of standard Money Laundering protocols.Otherwise the bank gets censured.
    4. Such clearing banks will charge their fees and most will seek to give you a Cashiers Draft, or wire transfer for you to your own bank. Make sure your own Bank is aware ahead of what is coming and has full paperwork with history etc.
    5. A market will form fast and fill fast. Once Vietnam meets its needs quota, Tail End Charlies will get the scraps.
    6. Dinars are such a complete Pigs Breakfast of Fraud, there is no point in guessing. There is likely to be a special deal for the Tier Ones and God knows for the rest. A country who needs at best $5T will never be able to absorb or pay for the multi hundred Ts rumoured. So of course a new currency will follow fast and the rest God knows. But the Gurus have all the answers.Custer is coming from Disneyland and Alice from Wonderland will feed out Trillions.
    But only to those wearing the Sam Elliot T Shirts. A Special kind of Stupid.
    6.Seriously to help, YOU must understand the Banking protocols, needs and moves. Walking into a bank with a bunch of notes and a dumb look wailing, AAAh want Maaah money will result in the notes being seized, you being questioned and all sorts of consequences.

    Once the PPs move, there will be a window to grab the crumbs. The Lull before the storm. Get in and get the hell out once we do advise you to move, because when 10,000 hairy chinned, vacant expression, part toothless versions of skanky Bigfoots start to hit the Banks with hands outstretched, chaos will start. Even worse when their husbands wake up later and come next in Cover Alls and 6 weeks old shirts to look smart for Maah visit to de Bank . Wakkie Backie and all. Those Dinar Sellers were ruthless. Aaahm gonna make me a Billionaire. The Sella Fella promised. Its maah right.
    Markets are and will be finite. They all have limited capacities. Be safe, get in, get out- fast once flagged. Start getting ready. Iran laughed its head off printing Dinars with Saddam's plates, smuggling them over the border and exchanging for Billions in Baghdad as a huge easy earner for months until the dumb Yanks woke up and stopped it fast. Nice one Iran. Smart guys. The scalped the US, then the Agencies piled in and used it as an easy earner to sell to the Plebs. What a line of victims. It will end in tears for many. Aaah was Promised. Boo hoo. Aaaahm special. Yep, and Sam has a T shirt for you.
    So, forgive the humour, here we know your literate. so be ready, beat the queue , get organised and get out.
    Just get your records ready, work out which 2 Banks you will need an account with if yours cant exchange, so if one declines you try the next, get 2 references on yourself and have 2 examples of billing to your address via State Taxes,.Telephones, Water Bills etc. A passport if you have one or a current ID card. All KYC aids to clear you. Start now.

    1. Thanks John,

      Are we in the home stretch?

    2. For those in Australia you can get a National Criminal Record check yourself
      See if that is available where you are.
      Thanks John.

    3. My local bank does not have an affiliate to handle currencies.... I find it a little hard to go into a major and open an account on the premise I am going to need a major currency exchange as soon as the Dong revalues... I do have a good friend who is a lawyer so I think ill run all this by him Monday... maybe he can advise... maybe he will run out and buy his own Dong... I wish I had purchased mine thru a major now instead of forex... record would have been established...

    4. forex should read travelx

    5. James, you should have your receipts from Travelx from purchasing your dong. It's the not the information that you get from Sterling or one of the other major sellers(exchangers) of currency, but still is proof were you got your currency. Travelx checks its currency as they provide local money for where travelers are going. You may have record of purchasing if you used your debit or credit card also. That will show your purchase even if you lost the receipts.

    6. Great and positive update John / Canauzzie,
      Does this mean we are close?
      Is it snowing? Lol , just kidding guys

    7. P,,, thanks for the feedback.... and, yes I do have my receipts.... I just need an account with a major.... if I had bought my Dong thru a major they would already know who I am.... as for now I am going to be a joe blow walking in of the street.... I have no problem with any kind of compliance.... they can feel free to check me up and down and sideways.... I think it will all workout.... thanks again

  56. Prepared with two options , Chase and WF. All KYC in place. Thank You John.

    1. All or nothing. Both adequate. Well done.

    2. All or nothing, sorry, you clearly don't profile for the T Shirt so buy your own. Lol.
      Poor Sam one just slipped the net. Dam - One less earner.

    3. John

      It came from BoB....

      ...and me and my family, we are taking an individual steps...that can be eventually co-ordinated here ......

      We are thinking to get done by financial profs some dossier analyse of Vietnam economy and VND .... we just talked to them .... it should not be a big deal....

      .... in case banks would asked for reasons for our investments to have anything in hand......beside personal papers...

      Unless, when inquired by banks, we would say that we overheard in a bar some talk of half drunk bankers and acted on that overheard chat and this speculation ....

      On Monday we might have it set with agency for some provision, they will do it for us as indicated by phone conversation since we have some good links there - no problem. I am happy to share the dossier for big smile here if interested.... (I mean I will make sure that it is in English, might be not easy to read Czech..)

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  57. Cameron might have had a waking up call, finally...

    Furious Cameron warns Britain is closer to leaving the EU after Brussels 'thumps' UK with 'appalling' bill for an extra £1.7billion to prop up struggling European nations

    Read more:
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    Either EU leaders are really idiots or they acted like Americans, then they are qualified as idiots anyhow - any moves they make to fix things it turns exact opposite ....

  58. The so-called ‘people’s servants’ have transformed the Ukrainian Central Election Commission into a weapon of illusory democracy, sharing the power only among themselves,” said a report posted on its website.
    “We, CyberBerkut, announce that we control the cyberspace of the Central Election Commission of Ukraine. And today, on ‘a day of silence’ ahead of the election to the Verkhovna Rada, we have disrupted the functioning of the electronic counting system and the CEC’s website,” the report continued.
    CyberBerkut has repeatedly targeted websites of the Ukrainian government and disabled telephones in the parliament.

  59. Banker's HOBBY --- one might think it is golf?


    Deutche Banker hanged ....
    .....manager Calogero Gambino hanged himself. It is the second suicide in the boardroom of the Institute, may be related to the manipulation of interest rates.

    New YorkCalogero Gambino, lawyer and Managing Director of Deutsche Bank in New York, has killed himself. His wife had the 41-year-olds on the morning of 20th of Oct.

    I wonder if banks are providing some kind of course instruction for suicides ......

  60. John,

    You often say that your groups are looking for sincere people to help change the world for the better. A story was posted in the NYTimes today about just such a 72 year old person. He was awarded $100,000 to continue his work from this organization: is building a movement to tap the skills and experience of those in midlife and beyond to improve communities and the world.

    Excerpt from the NYTimes article:

    A common spine runs among all of the winners: “An increasing number of people over 60 want to leave a legacy and do something that makes their children proud,” said Ann MacDougall, president of “They’re thinking about what’s going to be read at their funeral. Not that it’s right around the corner, but they start thinking in those terms.”

    John and Canauzzie,

    I am in this age group and I know that it is true that so many are asking "what can I do to leave a better world for my children and grandchildren". This is a group that is ripe for tapping to alter the world. Many were the former "flower children" of the 60's who lost their way during the "GREED" era and are waking up to what their real moral base is. They have time and money. Don't forget about us, okay?

    1. Mom,Wife and Patriot.

      Not for a moment do we forget, and I hold the deepest respect for all such people. Politically its a desert in the US for leadership and YOU ALL are the only hopes. Once the PPs clear we WILL assess positions. Please always feel free to raise issues but be assured we care and do empathise. .Thank you for raising this.

    2. MWP,

      You nailed it. What is our legacy...a broken, corrupt, land mass with vultures circling overhead amidst the chemtrails? What an inspiring endeavor is, and a quite apropos name. So many good people fighting the good fight if we can connect with each other, like at OWoN, and then help each other, we could turn things around no doubt.

  61. MWP

    Thank you for sharing ..... it is inspiring ....

  62. Canauzzie

    I just wonder if Canadian authorities already found in that shooter residence some Koran written in Russian language - to have reason to accuse two parties at the same time.....

    1. Rest assured that the government will try to twist this whichever way they need to get what they want.

      The Canadian government as well as most at the provincial level are abysmal failures and are not representative of the average Canadian.

      Our journalists are more critical but still fail on issues which should be challenged like Ukraine. Once their is a consensus, right or wrong, the media will fall inline. But until there is a consensus, all is fair game.

  63. Does this have legs I wonder?

    "We need to know what former Prime Minister Gordon Brown and his Chancellor, Alistair Darling, knew about this."

    HBOS (Bank of Scotland) accused of misleading the public over £4bn rescue

    A highly questionable deal between a major British bank, the previous Labour government and UK financial regulators resulted in the publication of misleading information that led the public to invest hundreds of millions of pounds in the failing bank.

    An investigation by The Independent on Sunday has found the Treasury and the Bank of England were funnelling billions of pounds worth of loans to HBOS (Bank of Scotland) when it raised £4bn – without informing potential investors that it was surviving on life support from the state.

    1. Be assured they would have known. Like the $15T re Lord James, some knew. HSBC were up to the neck in that and RBS.

  64. Red Cross is apparently a fascist racist organisation .....
    Executive director of Fair Aid Charity Fund Elizaveta Glinka, aka Dr. Liza, said that the International Committee of the Red Cross refused to cooperate with her. In particular, Red Cross officials refused to provide assistance to Ukrainian children, whom Glinka evacuated from the war zone in Ukraine. According to Glinka, the organizations made the decision on the basis of critical approach to the policies run by Russian President Putin, The View reports.

    "When the first trip with the humanitarian aid was being organized, I was carrying the cargo to both sides of the conflict. There was anti-tetanic serum and other medications. I requested a guarantee from the Red Cross, that is, I asked for the documents of what I was carrying. My request was declined here in the Moscow office. When I asked them why, they told me: "We do not like the policy of your president," said Glinka in an interview with Kommersant FM radio station.

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  66. SWAT Training Drill During Marysville School Shooting?

    Doesn’t there always seem to be funny business with these alleged school shootings? The latest is the Marysville, Washington active shooter event taking place today.

    This post isn’t to discuss the details of the ongoing event, but rather to point out that it appears the Marysville Police were scheduled to run a SWAT training exercise yesterday or perhaps today too. We can’t know for sure because they scraped all references to it from the Internet

  67. Deutsche Bank lawyer found dead by suicide in New York

    BERLIN Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:38pm EDT


  68. Updates to help many still confused.

    1. Money is finite and once the currency conversions start for the Dongs, Dinars etc, system overload will quickly be achieved. Banks being Banks, will act by knee jerk policies.
    2. Dongs should be OK as long as hidden overprinting or counterfeit is not involved. Dodgy people are attracted to paper games. All evolves around the rate. What is on your side, is that the Big Battalions are looking for big hits. Those who move fast should get converted quickly as suggested. Once the system reaches its liquidity needs, Banks will not overstock at the own risk. OWON and WHA should be first in the queue and out. The brighter parties tend to congregate there. Some humour is tongue in cheek, take it as just fun looking at the parties we do see on some blogs.
    3.Dinars are a whole different ball game. Mountains of trouble waiting for many. Also overprinted a hundred times more than Iraq needs. The world is not going to bail proceeds of crime. The Big battalions will get paid, many others will get laid, face down. Hog tied.
    4, Bank Compliance seems to specialise in hiring a special kind of stupid. Any deviation in accounts or sudden interjections of big money will flag up.That is when for no good reason,the anal by products from Palookerville, now employed in Compliance, with no warning, discussion or reason, will just close your account. Negative little shits out of control run riot and no one muzzles them. In Banking, any unusual movement is enough to have your account closed, or money blocked. Banking has changed. Not for the better. We are just trying to help you avoid the problems.
    5.Rates are still subjective so it will be interesting to see final profiles and tiers as they emerge. Be sure, for many in Dinar land it will end in tears.
    6. Those able to get in and get paid asap once it starts, by having an orderly presentation ready, it will save you a lot of grief with Banks. Also you will be in and done before the Bongo land Grunts catch on and start hitting the banks. Once that happens, chaos will rule and banks will contain it rapidly. Most will fail a KYC check and banks wont want to open an account for them. With Dinars, road kill will be walking in clutching notes looking to be paid. Never mind Elm Street, it will become a nightmare on every street in Banking.

    Seriously though, in and out fast then PLEASE, this is your one big chance, do NOTHING with your money bar pay off your debts, cards etc. Take your time , for Gods sake do that. Decide with care and thought what kind of life you now want with an option. Some may chose to offload baggage and start again. In which case shelter that cash fast. Move it again.
    Banking is going through hard patch. Spread your asset risk. Metals., multi currencies, and Foreign investments for safety. Do NOT get sucked into businesses you don't have experience of. Nothing is as it seems.
    For all - Good luck and - Avoid the T shirt.

    We hope good things break for all of you.

    1. Thanks John

      But should we have kind of analytic dossier like of Vietnam economy to present to bank to justify our reasoning why we invested in VND ......

    2. It wont harm but just pointing out that it was a fair bet that Dongs would be resurrected should be OK. Records are key as BS baffles brains.

    3. I guess I spoke in haste. Well I have not sold anything back, so that's a plus. The instructions for a smooth process is very helpful and makes perfect sense. It is better to be over prepared and not need it than not have it and have to wait a week or more to get it, then your window has already closed.

      What I guess I was not understanding was the fact that people that bought foreign currency do not have bank accounts (a lot of them). That is really hard to believe. I think that is okay if you want to operate on restricted, simple level or are unlearned about such things. The question is, how do people that are that uneducated know about foreign currency speculation to have bought into it in the first place?

      Thank you for the help John. Are we almost to the nod?

  69. John,

    Are there other currencies we should get compliance documents for as well? Or are we only talking about the 2 currencies mentioned at this time?

    1. JV

      Do you mind if I say a word, I will try carefully?

      The luck that we are getting help does not mean that when somebody offers a finger one grasps all arm....

      We are not dealing here with cabal greedy leaders .....

      We get help and we are on our own regarding this speculation ..... do not try to take whole arm when somebody offers a finger.....

      I try to be sensitive not judgemental .....

    2. JV
      Any source of funds to day has to be bank validated. All currencies apply. Unless you are an Agency operating from Frankfurt, in which case all their Money Laundering . Drug Dealing and Bank Platform trading is swept through evading all taxes or Political oversight and funds both dirty deeds and dirty people everywhere. And Slick Willy still cant pay to dry clean a skirt?

  70. Vladimir Putin Is The Leader of the “Moral World”: Confronts Washington’s “Extra-legal Right to World Hegemony”.....

  71. A short video by Ben Fulford on the Ottawa shooting
    Benjamin Fulford - Ottawa Shooting Coup d'état:

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  73. So, again we little peons get treated like criminals when we go to the bank. How am I going to pay for a lawyer to help me make a presentation of proof of funds? Turns out I payed 50% above value for Dongs. I bought exclusively on eBay. I guess I can do a print-up of each transaction. I hope that is enough. But, as you say they may simply chose to close my account. Crap! This really, really sux!



    Thank you for the update anyway....Does not look good for me here. I do NOT have a top-5 bank. No MONEY to open a new account at Chase, either! $7.00 Balance in my 20+ year checking account, and two overdue bills pending for heat , elec, water.....

    1. DL
      I hear you and many Americans. Few people understand how bad things have got in America.
      But few in America understand how much worse it's going to get. Much, much much worse.
      The dollar will drop c35% in value. Imports will rocket in price. Taxes will go up and Gas will be taxed as in Europe at c $12 a gallon. They will take in every way they can. If Dongs get a good recovery rate, it buys you time. But that's all. Even if after taxes you end up with say $2M, invested at current market yields, banks will pay you nothing, and cross spreading may make you c3% with risks of Capital losses, so even that, after both Corporate Taxes and Income Taxes, wont leave much. Money will depreciate as the cost of living shoots up, so, in your case, it can only be a stop gap and bridge to find a real angle to use part of it to trade for a profit. Secure a home, a second hand car and take your time to test markets. If people lose the lot its then game over. And be sure c 60% are going to lose the lot.
      For those ending up with only a few hundred thousand after taxes, most will spend like lunatics, because they want, and then it will be game over. At least , even with a few hundred K, it gives you time to test trading. Risk no more than 10% on any deal.
      Reality check on bills, switch off the damned heating and wear warmer clothes as your ancestors did. Reduce electricity use as those bills are going to climb. If you don't, they will cut you off once bills default.
      Until you find an angle to work for money, there is no easy way out. As will be the case for ever more people. Put simply, without the Dongs, God will not help many. So, despite all your understandable worries, you, yourself, HAVE found an angle of real hope and YOU did that. As you will again once you get a kick start. You read and contribute here. Which means you ARE a thinking American, Frustrated at what is and challenging it. Things are coming, and those with the right Dong in their hands, hopefully will get a leg up the greasy survival pole fast. Think and realise, you are seeking self help. What about the Dumbos only squealing for Welfare bucks for ever. They have real problems coming because that is time dated. Soon, their tickets to ride will be reviewed. Hard. Reality is trucking down on them. No one is owed. No one.
      So the Dongs are only a stop gap of help and finding that new angle is the key, so stay focused. You will survive. Just forget about rights to keep heating on. Its no right and eats money. People are going to get the mother of all wake up calls Stateside soon when the dollar tanks. What then as all prices will be hit. The dollar based on worthless hype, is being called out. BRICS, the Yuan, Euro etc all now seek to feed their greed and all are in need. The food bowl is shrinking. Soon a guy with $7 bucks will be rich. Well for 12 seconds anyway. DL, hope for you is coming. Many don't have that.

    2. The USA would never survive past $6/gallon gas. There is no public transportation infrastructure here like European countries have plus it's much more spread out. By $5/gallon gas the economy would start collapsing. Plus we are taxed here by mpg, so municipalities and government taxes would actually decrease because no one would be driving. When gas hit $4 a few years back, it was like bloody murder at the pump. People will rally behind gas prices that high.

    3. JV

      I guess John knows what I am going to write and I know what he is going to answer me. Anyhow.

      When Soviet Union went down .... nobody, I mean nobody was there to sympathise with Russians. There was no John, there were no Dongs......Russian money went about 10 times down, not 35% ...Rubble was as strong as Deutch Mark, check how it is today......
      Not only that there was nobody to sympathise with Russia, masses of Westerners came to rob from Russia what they could put hand on and they believe that it is justice....

      In my country prices when 10 times that you could buy for 5 K all of sudden you had to pay 50 K......OK. There was no John with Dongs....we had to make it while looking how Westerners are robing our country step by step....and if anybody would open a mouth then they would do to us second Yugoslavia...REALITY...

      What do you think happened to Yugoslavia economy when US came to destroy Yugoslavia only because they wanted to be independent on EU, NATO and US? I know people there, I know how it is, yet fascist US did not great the spirit of Serbs ..... only Serbs in whole Europe can see what is up....they invited and welcome Putin such way that it is appropriate and just.

      Now, in my view all Wanta money should be taken and given to countries that US kept destroying last 50-60 years.... This I would call justice..... Western Europe should be treated in the same US.

    4. Vlastimil,

      Russia is not a pillar of the community when it comes to Human Rights.

      My wife's grandfather was tortured in a Russia camp after WWII.

      The Russians and communists in Romania stole the Saxons homes, land and freedom. They tortured the men and raped the women. They moved into their homes and They spit in their food and pissed on their floor.

      Realize that there is EVIL everywhere, but there is a lot of good in people everywhere too.

      This negative energy is self-fulfilling.

      To blame millions of good, albeit naive, Americans for the crappy things our corrupt government does would be like me blaming you for the rapes and killings that happened in Russia over the years.

      If America completely collapses and the dollar goes, the world will be in a row of shit. 60% of the dollars are used outside the country. There are dozens of countries pegged to the dollar. Dozens of countries hold billions in treasuries. The world is interconnected and contrary to what some people think a collapse will effect ALL of us very bad. The derivatives issue alone will implode the financial system if the dollar collapses.

      The world is just WAY to interconnected to these days.

      What we should ALL hope for is peace...not more death and destruction.

    5. JV and Canauzzie

      I did not argue over if after WW2 Russians in their madness executed or raped or tortured people who they believed to be NAZI collaborators or just suspects - so they did what should I said to that? How mad they were after NAZI Germany killed 20 mil of them without any cause. Russians did not do anything to them and then here they come - burning villiges - wiping out populations regardless gender of course with good financial support from USA ..... HOW MAD RUSSIANS WERE? If all Germany was wiped out in 1945, I would still understand that because anger and madness is without limits in such war as WW2 was from Russian perspective...... This is Stalins words about Ukraine when Ukraine with Hitler kept killing Russians like rats....after the war Stalin said: execute only those who have blood unto the neck, because if we have to execute all who have innocent blood on their hands, there will be nobody left....

      (It is still difference when Russia executes justice because they were attacked and when Americans wiped out Indians in greater number then Stalin did and those indians did nothing wrong...) What Americans soldiers did in Iraq----torture in inhuman cause from Iraqis what so ever.....

      But this was not my point to this or that, it makes no sense to shoot back and forth at each other.

      My point was that when Soviet Union went down no one hurried to help Russians rather opposite, and they survived, so did we in Czech when hyperinflation hit us 10times up....nobody came to help rather opposite, West bought most of the Czech industry for nothing or real estate --- it was premeditated crime of West....if we did not agree on that and other conditions dictated from NATO - Yugoslavia in Czech.

      Fairness feels like Americans are treated as Obama said, we are talking about 35% USD down.... Russia went 10 times and nobody blink an eye ....Hellooo. I do not care if USD falls or not, it makes no difference to me. If they begin doing what is right, let it be as it is, let USD be at the present value and all world can move on. The problem is that they do not intend to do anything else but crime, killing and theft. This is the problem -

      You want to help American people - today I am saying, break down USA into smaller states, they would have better chance to come back faster. What is more important USA or the people. For the most USA, when I hear response to my comments. But that big machine will do all possible to keep control and such huge block will not be easy to restart...., Break it down, recover and if you come back in 5 to 10 years so what. Nobody would care if it will be will of people. So what.

      Fairness or at least little bit humility ..... that's what I am asking for, nothing else. Nobody went to help Russians and there were many good Russians as they are many good Americans today .... it happened it happened and I do not want to reverse it. Americans will get help, so they will get helped. So be it, it is reality and it is OK with me. But some proper attitude would be nice to see, it should not be .... it is our right we are Americans and we suffer now and give us more tips where we can cash even more. I do not like. Where is kind of humility.....

      I am asking for acknowledgement of facts and humility .... it not my right to be helped either, it is mercy ..... if I am not helped, I will not be helped, so what. Reality. Would I stop or be mad on John? He did not bring me to this situation. It was me.

      If Americans get help, Russians should get help also ( Wanta should return to them some of the cash gained by whatever suspicious way..)... not talking about countries that were destroyed in the name of USA or their democracy....

      (Beside Russia after WW2 is not Russia today..)

  74. DL, John and others

    I really wish we could get a group pool together whereby John could lead the funds into the best place for exchange on our behalf and take a fee. This would seriously help us all I think. But of course, I feel somewhat bad for asking John for this because he owes us nothing and doubtless there are reasons why he could not do this. Just thinking out aloud as they say.

    Best wishes

    1. I tried to get the West Coast parties to help but they are overloaded and I am not able to enter this Public arena. When the time comes we will ask a major bank to try to help. We know what's coming and the obstacles ahead. An explosion of wealth will create real bank problems for some. They simply have no idea of what complete Varmints Compliance can be. If only the world were so simple, but its not, and crocks are waiting.
      Some are just too dumb to understand that only major Banks can handle this and minor ones can not. For the unwary it will be like shooting fish in a barrel. They have no idea how messy it will get for some if they use the wrong banks and paperwork is not in good order. Stepping into the majors some will get run over. Over $10K from unusual sources, the system lights are going to go on. Let them find out the hard way.

    2. john,,,, you asking a major for help would be wonderful.... I have no problem what so ever with a background check or any other check.... nothing to hide here at ALL.... just a fair playing field is all I ask.... the part time job I work now does not afford me the opportunity to open a new account with chase... they want direct deposit to open.... hopefully starting another full time job first of nov which will allow me to at that time.... I appreciate all that you guys do very very very much john!... as for any return I may get I know exactly what to do.... prepare prepare prepare....

    3. James, I don't work for Chase but I know from asking that you can open an account now without direct deposit. You will be charged $10 a month (unless you meet other requirements to waive the fee), but you could get started now. I think they wait 30-60 days to charge the fee to get your direct deposit together, but check with them to be sure.

    4. Thanks Phoenix.... when I called the local Chase branch I was told open new account with direct deposit only... maybe its because its a branch and its up here in the hick town mountians.... not sure.... just gonna sit tight right now and see what comes together.... thanks again

  75. Thank you John for trying. You're right, compliance can be a bear.

  76. John,
    I have an account in Australia in 'Australia and New Zealand Banking Group' which operates also in Vietnam. Any opinion on the chance I have exchanging Dong there? It's not a major to my understanding, but they do sell and buy Dong.

    I'll appreciate your response.

    1. KRZY

      Every chance once it breaks.

    2. KRZY I opened an acc there last week and explained why. Said it could be 10k, 100k or 1M. The guy said fine. wasn't worried at all. If you can use a branch where their private banks are co located eg 242 Pitt St Sydney. They will be used to dealing with majors. As for 'major' any of the big 4 in Oz should be fine I expect.

    3. Ajnaandy, I appreciate your comment. Good luck to you and all once this breaks.

  77. Yes thank you for trying John. It will be a crying shame for anybody who has been waiting for this and ends up being blocked after moving quickly and doing their best with good intentions in their hearts. I hope none of us on here suffer that fate when this thing goes.

    Best wishes

  78. Please help us all pull a few legs off Gurus all stating to you it was set to trade on the 26 th when we told you all, No Way!
    A few thousand of you hammering their Blog sites will cause havoc and wake up even the worst Dummies. Ask them are you ready for the Reckless Trading and Securities Trading Violations, and Bogus Currency Trafficking Charges coming?
    That may help a few TNT their way through morning ablutions. Give it 5 minutes to let even the thickest sink in, and they will be running. Way overdue a knock for most of them. They have hurt a lot of poor families badly. Vermin!

  79. The Chinese government announced that the renminbi will become directly convertible with the Singapore dollar... effective tomorrow morning.
    Posted by EXOGEN on October 27, 2014 at 2:17pm
    The dollar decline continues: China begins direct convertibility to Asia’s #1 financial center‏

    his morning some of the biggest financial news of the year made huge waves all over Asia.

    Yet in the Western press, this hugely important information has barely even been mentioned. (, for example, has yet to report on this story as of 11:45am Eastern...)
    So what's the news?

    The Chinese government announced that the renminbi will become directly convertible with the Singapore dollar... effective tomorrow morning.

    It's clear this deal has been in the works for a while, and it's another major step towards the continued internationalization of the renminbi and unseating of the dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency.

    For decades the renminbi has been a tightly controlled currency. It's only been in the last few years that the Chinese government started loosening those controls, primarily in response to the obvious need for a dollar competitor.

    The entire world is screaming for an alternative to the dollar and the US government.

  80. At Least 29 Members of US House of Representatives Are Israeli Dual Citizens and Need to Be Voted Out on November 4, 2014

    October 25, 2014

    There is no other country in the world that allows members of its national government to be a citizen of two different nations at the same time, except the United States. The dual citizen status can only apply to citizens of Israel, and no other country. This change to US law was made possible by the subversion and betrayal of Jewish Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, a Johnson appointee, who later had to resign from the Supreme Court. This disastrous change to our immigration law MUST be changed back to no dual citizens allowed to participate in any government office. In the meantime, you have an opportunity to remove 29 of these Israeli fifth columnists from the House of Representatives on November 4. Do your part and VOTE on November 4 and kick the traitors out of Congress.

    House of Representatives:

    1. Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    2. Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    3. Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    4. Representative Howard Berman (California)
    5. Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    6. Representative Susan Davis (California)
    7. Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    8. Representative Bob Filner (California)
    9. Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
    10. Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    11. Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
    12. Representative Jane Harman (California)
    13. Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    14. Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    15. Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    16. Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    17. Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    18. Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    19. Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    20. Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    21. Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    22. Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    23, Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    24. Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    25. Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    26. Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    27. Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    28. Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    29. Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    1. FedUp this issue is gaining traction here in Australia too. An FOI was lodged with the Prime Ministers Office to release Abbott's RN form showing his renunciation of British Citizenship. According to an update on that campaign, a response received said that the RN form 'cannot be found and/or doesn't exist' despite being 'in the agency's or Minister's possession'.

    2. AJ:
      I ran into FOIA requests where information requested did not exist in the department request forwarded to. So, I requested the information from every department of state; therefore the eventual passing around stopped at the responsible department that had a right to redact some information prior to release.

      Governments are compartmentalized for a reason, and I believe that this is one of the reasons. We do have a right to know...

    3. Plus a whole hell of a lot more!

  81. Well spotted and exposed Fed Up.
    This needs to be carried onto the new article coming up overnight.

    1. Yes John, we need to know this kind of information, detailed to be able to vote these critters out. This will be a good one for awareness...

  82. CDC and Media Agenda Revealed? Nurse That Complained About Ebola Quarantine Employed by CDC

    Kaci Hickox, the nurse who was quarantined in New Jersey over her high risk status as a possible Ebola carrier, has ties to the CDC which have been deliberately hidden by the mainstream media.
    Right now, a war is waging between states like New Jersey, New York and Illinois — which have all decided to quarantine travelers at high risk of Ebola infections — and the federal government which is adamantly opposed to border security, medical quarantines and travel bans.
    Kaci Hickox emerged in the center of this debate just yesterday when she complained of being “interrogated” and held in violation of her civil rights. Kaci’s profile, which described her links to the CDC, was scrubbed from the web earlier today, and even Google cache has strangely been cleared of her profile which previously detailed her ties to the CDC.
    On Sunday Charles C. Johnson exposed the nature of Kaci Hickox’s hidden past:

    The nurse currently quarantined in New Jersey is an employee for the Centers for Disease Control and a registered Democrat with a history of left-wing advocacy, has learned.

  83. ITCCS Breaking News Interview: October 27, 2014

    ITCCS shifting to community-based direct action to secure common law justice and self-government

    VANCOUVER, BC – In this Exopolitics TV interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre today, Kevin Annett, the North American Field Secretary for the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS.ORG), provides an overview of ITCCS becoming more community-based and direct action oriented as people’s need for common law justice and self-government increases.

  84. Pastor Williams shared an article from the Financial Times entitled “Banks Rewrite Derivatives Rules to Cope with Future Crisis”.

    Pastor Williams says “the banks see what is coming and want to cover their losses.” He continued by stating “This is exactly what my elite friend said.

    Interest rates rise, Derivative problems, Stock market collapse, Banking trouble, September & October 2015. Like dominoes. The banks see it coming

  85. Winston Churchill once said that "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." By 'everything else' apparently he also meant hiring thousands of Nazis as Cold War spies and informants and, according to the NYT, "as recently as the 1990s, concealing the government’s ties to some still living in America."......

    So here, according to the NYT, are the facts about Uncle Sam's employment of Nazis for decades. "At the height of the Cold War in the 1950s, law enforcement and intelligence leaders like J. Edgar Hoover at the F.B.I. and Allen Dulles at the C.I.A. aggressively recruited onetime Nazis of all ranks as secret, anti-Soviet “assets,” declassified records show."


  86. The Swiss public will be voting on the Swiss Gold Iniative on 30th November. They still appear to have a truly functioning democracy, with an informed population consulted on major issues such as immigration, whose votes actually count.

    Swiss Gold Initiative 30 November 2014 Volksinitiative (5 minutes)

  87. John, Canauzzie, and FEDUP,

    Update for new article on: At Least 29 Members of US House of Representatives Are Israeli Dual Citizens and Need to Be Voted Out on November 4, 2014

    The following from Calif and 1 from Ariz are no longer in Congress:

    Jane Harman - D Calif - gone - now Director, President and CEO of Woodrow Wilson
    Bob Filner - D Calif - gone and now also disgraced former Mayor of San Diego - probably a lobbyist now - no shock there.
    Henry Waman - D Calif - gone - retiring this year
    Howard Berman - D Calif - gone Jan 2013
    Gabrielel Giffords - D Ariiz - gone

    I haven't checked on the others as of yet.


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