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A US Special Forces take on Jimmy Carter interview

OWoN: Some US Special Forces cross chatter of interest to all.

Interesting that this is his view.

Maybe that is what "we" (maybe the chairman or SECDEF) told him. I had not heard any of the "leaders" or "players" or the "boys in the band (i.e. Shooters)" use clear terms like this.

Carter may have just boiled it down to the most basic level! Carter's decisions and leadership up to the mission failure may have been batting 90%, and as we moved to fix our problems after Eagle Claw failed, maybe he proved to 95%. But still he had failed, and was unable to recover and get the 53 Americans home, and so lost the Presidency.

This basic level view is less than Many would have, or still do, expect from an Annapolis graduate with advanced Nuclear Engineering training, qualification, and experience.

I am surprised that a Nuclear Engineer would look back at his career destroying experience at a basic, minimalist level rather than assess the whole Caboodle: political, military, tactical, leadership, selection, training, secrecy, threat, weakness, rules of engagement, transference of command from air to ground component, in place agents, sources, methods, soviet satellite viewing times and windows, weather, soil composition, cowardice, qualifications, interoperability, non organic assets, unity of command, threat suppression, foreign governments views and support, communications, cover operations, decoys, deniability, maybe well over 160 USAF, 24 USMC, and 20 USN mission aircraft, three full USN carrier groups with over 20 combatant surface ships, over 250 more USN AIR Assets aboard, maybe a dozen submarines, six prepositioned ships, USS La Salle command headquarters ship, four+ geographic or specific combatant commanders, airfields on at least five other nations soil, three+ foreign ports, night goggle moon light availability, Intel assets and support, medical preparations, multiple aircraft and weapon system modification and tests, clandestine refueling techniques developed and tested, continuously exceeding global wartime max gross weights and crew days, foreign nationals embedded, former target country general staff support, extreme hard work for months before and after of well over 6000 US Military members, lives lost in training as well as in the desert, range of alternative missions planned and rehearsed, test community support at beyond wartime levels, constant briefing to and planning sessions with Carter as CINC, massive use of national assets, SAC re targeting, and $$$.

So, I guess the bottom line is we just needed one more helicopter pulled off the Suez Canal de-mining operation, the only place they were available, and we took all of them, so there was not another, oh yes, and only the first USAF Pave Low MH-53G helicopter had been just delivered to USAF Combat Rescue at Mc Clellan AFB, CA and initial crews had just begun transition from H-3s, so no crew was combat ready.

But, in truth, that was the missing nail in the horse-shoe of the King's horse: missing because we never had that nail, we had not lost it!

(We could perhaps have borrowed that nail from the Israeli's, they had a few, but we may not have known that.)

Carter's other point is very true: he could have turned Iran into a dessert; many American voices on the street and in the media thought he should. Remember the T-shirts on the street and College campus's: "Nuke em till they glow!"

He could have done that, and had he done so, perhaps we would not have had Dessert Storm, Russians in Afghanistan, Global war on Terror, Iraq war, Afghanistan, Bin Laden, spread of Al Qeda, ISIS, Hamas, and probably no 9/11.

If that end piece is close to possible: Carter missed the opportunity to save the world.


Image: AP


JIMMY CARTER: 'I Could Have Wiped Iran Off The Map'


Yahoo Finance
via Business Insider
1 October 2014

Jimmy Carter attempts to kick Glenn Beck around. Former President Jimmy Carter marked his 90th birthday Wednesday with a lengthy interview on CNBC Meets where he discussed his one term in office and the one thing he would have handled differently — the Iran Hostage Crisis.

Carter suggested Operation Eagle Claw, a failed 1980 attempt to rescue the hostages taken by Iranian revolutionaries at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, could have been successful if he committed one more helicopter to the mission.

"I think I would have been re-elected easily if I had been able to rescue our hostages from the Iranians," Carter said. "And everybody asks me what would do more, I would say I would send one more helicopter because if I had one more helicopter, we could have brought out not only the 52 hostages, but also brought out the rescue team, and when that failed, then I think that was the main factor that brought about my failure to be re-elected. So that's one thing I would change."

Operation Eagle Claw was aborted after three of the helicopters taking part in the mission experienced mechanical problems.

Carter also said he believed he would have been re-elected if he took military action against Iran in response to the taking of the hostages. Though he argued he "could have wiped Iran off the map," Carter said he thought avoiding war was the "right decision."

"I could've been re-elected if I'd taken military action against Iran, shown that I was strong and resolute and, um, manly and so forth," said Carter, adding: "I could have wiped Iran off the map with the weapons that we had, but in the process a lot of innocent people would have been killed, probably including the hostages, and so I stood up against all that, er, all that advice, and then eventually my prayers were answered and every hostage came home safe and free. And so I think I made the right decision in retrospect, but it was not easy at the time."

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